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  • Doug R.
    Frequent User
    • November 2, 2009
    • 65

    Date code for 3817173

    I am looking for a 3817173 balancer for my 65 L76 engine.My engine build code is MAY 3, 1965. What dates would be judged correct for the date code on the balancer? How many months prior to May '65 would be considered correct?
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15595

    #2
    Re: Date code for 3817173

    Originally posted by Doug Rinard (51000)
    I am looking for a 3817173 balancer for my 65 L76 engine.My engine build code is MAY 3, 1965. What dates would be judged correct for the date code on the balancer? How many months prior to May '65 would be considered correct?
    ALL dates, except glass, are to be within six months before production*. Since you are asking about a part that was installed at the engine assembly plant (as opposed to St Louis) the relevant date is the assembly date of your engine -- as you have indicated. Can this date be judged?

    * In a few cases there are specific items that the TIM&JG specifies that can be different that the above general rule. Since I am not familiar with mid-years I cannot cite you any examples, nor do I know if the vibration damper would be an exception. Someone with more technical knowledge of mid-years, or a copy of the relevant judging manual, may provide specific information for your situation.
    Terry

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    • William C.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Date code for 3817173

      Damper is shipped on the engine so would have to predate the engine build...
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: Date code for 3817173

        Originally posted by Doug Rinard (51000)
        I am looking for a 3817173 balancer for my 65 L76 engine.My engine build code is MAY 3, 1965. What dates would be judged correct for the date code on the balancer? How many months prior to May '65 would be considered correct?
        Doug -

        FWIW, I don't think the date stamp on a 7173 balancer hub is visible with the pulley installed; it would be if it was on the inertia ring.


        BalancerBoltSB800.jpg

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        • Tracy C.
          Expired
          • July 31, 2003
          • 2739

          #5
          Re: Date code for 3817173

          stamp is on the engine side of inertia ring

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          • Wayne M.
            Expired
            • March 1, 1980
            • 6414

            #6
            Re: Date code for 3817173

            Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
            stamp is on the engine side of inertia ring

            That is also my recollection, the fin side on my early '65 L76 (lightly stamped 64H [or is it H64; I forget]. Tried to turn the engine over to verify but too difficult to see without a lift.

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Date code for 3817173

              Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
              stamp is on the engine side of inertia ring
              Tracy -

              See photo below of a 7173 balancer with the date stamp on the forward side of the hub.


              Balancer7173Frt.jpg

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              • Mike E.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 24, 2012
                • 920

                #8
                Re: Date code for 3817173

                How close are the ones that Paragon sells? Think I might need one too, the rubber going bad on a used part that's nearly 50 years old concerns me.





                This one on EBay does have a date on the inertia ring. But it's on the back side. It looks like it's stamped not part of the casting.




                Mike
                Last edited by Mike E.; October 9, 2013, 08:45 PM.

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: Date code for 3817173

                  Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                  How close are the ones that Paragon sells? Think I might need one too, the rubber going bad on a used part that's nearly 50 years old concerns me.

                  Mike
                  Mike -

                  There are two outfits in Redding, California that rebuild them, well and correctly (Damper Dudes and Damper Doctor).

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                  • Mike E.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • June 24, 2012
                    • 920

                    #10
                    Re: Date code for 3817173

                    Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                    Mike -

                    There are two outfits in Redding, California that rebuild them, well and correctly (Damper Dudes and Damper Doctor).

                    Thanks John! It looks like they put a sleeve on the sealing surface too. That's probably just as important too.

                    Mike

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                    • Tracy C.
                      Expired
                      • July 31, 2003
                      • 2739

                      #11
                      Re: Date code for 3817173

                      I can't spot the date in that pic but if there it goes to show there are no absolutes when people are involved.

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                      • John H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1997
                        • 16513

                        #12
                        Re: Date code for 3817173

                        Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
                        I can't spot the date in that pic but if there it goes to show there are no absolutes when people are involved.
                        Tracy -

                        If you click a second time on the image after clicking on the thumbnail and look closely, you'll see the date stamp at about 11 o'clock on the hub (the board software reduced the image from 98KB to 38KB when I uploaded it).

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                        • Tracy C.
                          Expired
                          • July 31, 2003
                          • 2739

                          #13
                          Re: Date code for 3817173

                          Are you sure the "CS" is a date? Maybe it a casting mold or manufacture's ID . Other pics in this thread show date stamps I'm familiar with as being on the backside of the itertia ring.

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #14
                            Re: Date code for 3817173

                            Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
                            Are you sure the "CS" is a date? Maybe it a casting mold or manufacture's ID . Other pics in this thread show date stamps I'm familiar with as being on the backside of the itertia ring.
                            Tracy -

                            Dunno - photo below is the back side of the same balancer, and I don't see any stamp on it anywhere.


                            Balancer7173Rear.jpg

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                            • Michael H.
                              Expired
                              • January 29, 2008
                              • 7477

                              #15
                              Re: Date code for 3817173

                              Originally posted by Tracy Crisler (40411)
                              Are you sure the "CS" is a date? Maybe it a casting mold or manufacture's ID . Other pics in this thread show date stamps I'm familiar with as being on the backside of the itertia ring.
                              Tracy,

                              I think you're right. The "CS" is not a stamped date. The CS is part of the original casting.

                              Scans below show a close up of the cast in CS in one and the G64 date stamp on the other. (date hard to see on far right side)
                              Last edited by Michael H.; October 13, 2013, 06:48 PM.

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