NCRS Online Classified Advertising

[Arland D.]

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William,

The point to be made is that hundreds of phone calls and emails to the board members will gain more traction than a few pithy comments made on a discussion board that is intended to be used for the exchange of technical information and not as a viable alternative to other social media. If members are serious about getting answers and results instead of airing opinions, they should contact the appropriate representative and clearly make their case heard. I too like to hold the magazine and browse at my leisure............

[Loren L.]

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"...(there was no Board of Directors in those days)......excuse me, but what planet was your Copper Mountain meet held on?

[Patrick H.]

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I think we all understand Doctors are troublemakers. Just take that Hulst guy, for example.

Yep, he's nothing but trouble.

[Terry M.]

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"...(there was no Board of Directors in those days)......excuse me, but what planet was your Copper Mountain meet held on?

Are you telling me there was a BoD in 1984, Loren? I don't think there was. My recollection is that there were "stock holders" who administered the organization back then.

[William F.]

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Pithy: "Having substance and point, concise" as defined by Webster's. Isn't that what we want?

[Edward J.]

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No I didn't attend the board meeting. Work, taking care of sick in-laws and the 415 mile commute prevented it.

With the glass either half empty or half full, trying to sell $20 items with fees, time limits, etc.....a "for sale" section with numerous restrictions isn't going to be very popular or get much use....just sayin. But what do I know, maybe my other forum selling experiences are the ones that are wrong?

Mike, When selling a item just add in the fee to the price of the part. Like a lot of us here on the TDB we are always looking for parts to restore our cars.

[Loren L.]

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Are you telling me there was a BoD in 1984, Loren? I don't think there was. My recollection is that there were "stock holders" who administered the organization back then.

It started as a non-profit, then was taken to profit status sometime in the '70s, with shareholders. The movement for change back to non-profit started with meetings at/around the time of the 1981 St Louis National and then the process of redeeming "shares" and reconstituting the Board began in 1982/3 and ultimately the Regional Representative concept took hold. But all during this time, there WAS a Board of Driectors.

[Mike F.]

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Mike, When selling a item just add in the fee to the price of the part. Like a lot of us here on the TDB we are always looking for parts to restore our cars.

That's all well and good, but with a 30 day time limit (ridiculous in my opinion) how many times do you list a small item that doesn't sell before the fees exceed the parts value? I have had people contact me about items listed months and even years ago on other forums. Again, something that should be simple made difficult. Just my 2 cents (which is worth $1.38 in some countries).

[Dick W.]

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Mike, I have to wonder if you and the others who are so negatively vocal actually attended the board meeting at which this was discussed and decided. I presume that if one had attended that meeting at least some, if not all, of these details would not come as the surprise the tone of these posts suggest.

I can tell you from experience one has to get out from behind the computer to get the most out of this organization. One misses a whole lot by not actively participating, as I told the folks who want pictures of the recent regional meet.

Being the lone member that stayed for the meeting, I can tell you they only voted on the proposal with details to be worked out later. They then moved to the next item on the agenda

[Terry M.]

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It started as a non-profit, then was taken to profit status sometime in the '70s, with shareholders. The movement for change back to non-profit started with meetings at/around the time of the 1981 St Louis National and then the process of redeeming "shares" and reconstituting the Board began in 1982/3 and ultimately the Regional Representative concept took hold. But all during this time, there WAS a Board of Driectors.

I can not argue with your dates as I have no recollection of the dates changes took place; but my memory fits your order of events - with one omission. I do not remember a BoD meeting in Copper Mountain -- at least not a publicized one or one open to the membership. Had there been one I would have made my pitch there rather than the membership meeting. The change I was advocating was more appropriate for a board meeting than a membership meeting. Had I known of an open board meeting at Copper Mountain I would have been there.

The one omission in your chronology is that as I recall it took some time for the BoD concept to sink in before regions were created and the directors were elected by the general membership. I do not recall how they were chosen in the beginning of the board, but I do remember initially it was NOT by vote of the membership. I also remember there was a number of members who objected to not having a vote or voice in the choice of board members.

So you are saying reconstituting the BoD began in 1982/3 and Copper Mountain was 1984. Close enough for me to believe the board was still reviving itself in 1984, and if a BoD existed in 1984 it was not functioning.

[Terry M.]

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Being the lone member that stayed for the meeting, I can tell you they only voted on the proposal with details to be worked out later. They then moved to the next item on the agenda

Then attendance would have been useless, and my position is in the dumper.
And Loren thinks I was on Uranus, so I am out of this dog fight.

[Greg C.]

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Egad... here we go again.

Being the lone member that stayed for the meeting, I can tell you they only voted on the proposal with details to be worked out later. They then moved to the next item on the agenda

This is what I was afraid of. The devil is always in the details.... "to be worked out later, behind closed doors". Yes, you can have your online classifieds... but we will do our best to make sure it has a crib death... muhaahaha haa haa haa..!

Who did the research into how the classifieds would be set up? Where was the transparency?

Its not like this isn't being done hundreds of times over on OTHER forums... sheshhh..... Another CORVETTE Forum lets its members post for free... but advertisers pay, at the minimum, $300 PER MONTH to advertise on that site. Last I counted, they had over 200 advertisers.... I'll let you do the math.

[Greg C.]

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I've just got to add....

WAS that the best place to let everyone know that there was an online classifieds? In the RESTORER?

Are they setting this up for failure or does it just look like it? I checked the Driveline... if anything it would have made sense to post it there.... but nothing. At least, a search for the term "online classifieds" yielded 0 results.

How about a post here, on the forum... where the classifieds would be? Nahhh.....

i am sick of using a computer for everything. i look forward to all of my auto magazines each month. if moving into the 21 century means i have to take a laptop to bed then count me out.

Wow... this would have had about 10x the impact had you actually written it on paper, mailed it to the Restorer and had them print it there... though, of course, you would have had to wait about 60 days for the process to unfold.

[Loren L.]

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The reason you cannot recall a BoD meeting at Copper Mountain is that at that time members were NOT allowed to attend/participate in Board meetings - one of the prime reasons that the semi-private "revolution" happened in St Louis. In any case, the State of Michigan REQUIRED a corporation organized under its code to have a Board of Directors.

[Kenneth B.]

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Egad... here we go again.



This is what I was afraid of. The devil is always in the details.... "to be worked out later, behind closed doors". Yes, you can have your online classifieds... but we will do our best to make sure it has a crib death... muhaahaha haa haa haa..!

Who did the research into how the classifieds would be set up? Where was the transparency?

Its not like this isn't being done hundreds of times over on OTHER forums... sheshhh..... Another CORVETTE Forum lets its members post for free... but advertisers pay, at the minimum, $300 PER MONTH to advertise on that site. Last I counted, they had over 200 advertisers.... I'll let you do the math.

BINGO You hit the nail on the head. It was what I was afraid of. They will have a FOR SALE section but will make it so that not many will use it & say " We told you so" It's so sad & childish.