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  • Neal K.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 31, 2007
    • 303

    67 air cleaner element

    Has any one had judging experience with the "correct" open air cleaner element offered on EBay by Corvette Central as part no. 152163 for a small block. If it has passed judging then I might consider springing for the $74.00 price to get one.
    As always I appreciate the learned responses and comments from our members.
    Neal
  • Daniel Y.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 2002
    • 185

    #2
    Re: 67 air cleaner element

    does it have white lettering or raised letter outline of letters (original). how many notches around edge? are they 3/8" or larger? Is metal lath diagonal? how is welds - overlap 1" I do not know if there are any being reproduced correctly. from the picture at least 2 of these are not typical.
    Dan Young

    65, 67 Duntov x2
    66 bowtie x 2
    71 LT1 TF
    90 ZR1 McCelland
    03 Anniverary
    06 Z06

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    • Neal K.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 31, 2007
      • 303

      #3
      Re: 67 air cleaner element

      Dan thank for your reply. I have no idea if the Corvette Central filter element meets all of the specifications that you set out in your reply. I was hoping someone with more knowledge than myself had bought or seen one close up and was able to give an opinion on its correctness. Maybe we will hear from others who have familiarity with the filter element offered by Corvette Central.
      Dan, thanks for taking time to share your knowledge.
      Best Regards
      Neal

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      • Daniel Y.
        Very Frequent User
        • September 30, 2002
        • 185

        #4
        Re: 67 air cleaner element

        based upon corvette central's website - the picture that is provided is limited but it will still get a point deduct for configuration and possibly finish you could take the ink jet white printing off and reduce that point deduct but you still have other configuration issues. however, its probably less point deduct than a fram filter. hope that helps
        Dan Young

        65, 67 Duntov x2
        66 bowtie x 2
        71 LT1 TF
        90 ZR1 McCelland
        03 Anniverary
        06 Z06

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 1, 1997
          • 7018

          #5
          Re: 67 air cleaner element

          Neal,

          There are some nice photos that have been posted on the DB of original, truly correct A212CW air filters (I think posted by Jody Balch, Wayne Midkiff and John Hinckley) . To my inspection, the Corvette Central items looks incorrect in a number of ways. If you do what Dan says and remove the white lettering, there may be no text left. On originals, there was no white ink and I think the letters were cut into the plastic rim.

          On the 63-67 judging sheets, there are 5 points for originality for the filter. Depending on the judge, I could see the CC repro filter getting a deduct of at least 1 point, but I could see it getting 2 or even 3 points deducted based on configuration being different (no solder joints on the wire mesh), completeness (no in-cut letters), and date (although there is no date per se, filters designed like the CC filter did not exist in '67). That 3rd point for date might sound a bit harsh, but I can definitely see some judges taking 2 points, and maybe on a given day with a given judging team one could lose 3 points. But, I've heard 2nd or 3rd hand stories of original, 100% correct A212CW filters selling for $5,000, so in the end you have to decide how much you're willing to pay per point.

          Gary

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          • Ara G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 31, 2008
            • 1108

            #6
            Re: 67 air cleaner element

            Neal, email me your email address. I own an original that I can send you pictures of. A picture is worth a thousand words. As Dan said, diagonal mesh, overlap seam, embossed stamping on top, notches, welds at the corners, all make an original an original. Ara

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            • Neal K.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 31, 2007
              • 303

              #7
              Re: 67 air cleaner element

              Thanks for all the responses.
              I had heard about a year ago the Richard Fortier was working on a correct reproduction. I should check with him.
              Otherwise it seems that the Corvette Central element is pretty good but not as "correct" as it is advertised to be.
              Does anyone know of a supplier that offers an element was is more correct.
              Thanks again for taking time to share your knowledge with me.
              Neal

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 7018

                #8
                Re: 67 air cleaner element

                Neal,

                To the best of my knowledge there is nothing that is substantially more correct than the CC repro. Older AC-made filters show up on e-bay a lot, but they have the same basic incorrectness as the CC repro. I have an AC A212CW filter that dates from the early 1980s and it's no better than the CC item.

                Gary

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                • Ronald L.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • October 18, 2009
                  • 3248

                  #9
                  Re: 67 air cleaner element

                  Which one of these is the correct logo for 1967?66to67 logos.jpg

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                  • Daniel Y.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • September 30, 2002
                    • 185

                    #10
                    Re: 67 air cleaner element

                    that looks ok - send pic of the weld joint and the entire cleaner - need to look at the "notches"
                    Dan Young

                    65, 67 Duntov x2
                    66 bowtie x 2
                    71 LT1 TF
                    90 ZR1 McCelland
                    03 Anniverary
                    06 Z06

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                    • Ronald L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • October 18, 2009
                      • 3248

                      #11
                      Re: 67 air cleaner element

                      Mesh is all good.

                      which one is the correct logo for 67?

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                      • Ara G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 31, 2008
                        • 1108

                        #12
                        Re: 67 air cleaner element

                        Originally posted by Ronald Lovelace (50931)
                        Mesh is all good.

                        which one is the correct logo for 67?
                        Bottom is correct...and nice

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                        • Daniel Y.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • September 30, 2002
                          • 185

                          #13
                          Re: 67 air cleaner element

                          you will find a picture on the new 67 judging guide and reference manual page 107 - the one on bottom looks very close to original. picture of notches available? I would love to see how many and size
                          Dan Young

                          65, 67 Duntov x2
                          66 bowtie x 2
                          71 LT1 TF
                          90 ZR1 McCelland
                          03 Anniverary
                          06 Z06

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                          • Ara G.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • January 31, 2008
                            • 1108

                            #14
                            Re: 67 air cleaner element

                            Originally posted by Daniel Young (38681)
                            you will find a picture on the new 67 judging guide and reference manual page 107 - the one on bottom looks very close to original. picture of notches available? I would love to see how many and size
                            Dan, I have an original on my Maroon car. I can send you pics of it tonight if you want. It's got good overlap too. What do you want pics of other than the notches? Be more than happy to send you them....Regards..ARA

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                            • Daniel Y.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • September 30, 2002
                              • 185

                              #15
                              Re: 67 air cleaner element

                              I would appreciate weld area and entire top - please send email
                              bowtie66@ptd.net

                              thank you !
                              Dan Young

                              65, 67 Duntov x2
                              66 bowtie x 2
                              71 LT1 TF
                              90 ZR1 McCelland
                              03 Anniverary
                              06 Z06

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