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  • Dwayne E.
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    • September 6, 2013
    • 9

    67 outside mirror confusion

    One of my side mirrors will not stay adjusted, so thinking about replacing both. The mirrors I currently have the bowtie on the back of the mirror and the allen screw is on the side of the base (facing the door) on both mirrors with a smooth/clean surface on the outside. Long Island Corvette parts has a mirror that appears to have no smooth surface, but the allen screw can be used from either side. I am trying to determine type of side mirror are "correct" for the 67 coupe. And if they are made for left and right side of the car or both work for either side of the car. New 67 owner, Thanks, Dwayne
  • Keith B.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 7, 2008
    • 928

    #2
    Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

    to start off with the right side mirror will never be correct.

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    • John D.
      Very Frequent User
      • June 30, 1991
      • 875

      #3
      Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

      Originally posted by Keith Brodbeck (14640)
      to start off with the right side mirror will never be correct.
      In addition Bowtie mirrors werre used earlier in the model year (1966 calendar year) and then the no logo. I think some people use red or blue
      locktite on the ball to help keep the mirror setting in place.
      Last edited by John D.; September 8, 2013, 07:51 PM.

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43219

        #4
        Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

        Originally posted by Dwayne Eddy (58918)
        One of my side mirrors will not stay adjusted, so thinking about replacing both. The mirrors I currently have the bowtie on the back of the mirror and the allen screw is on the side of the base (facing the door) on both mirrors with a smooth/clean surface on the outside. Long Island Corvette parts has a mirror that appears to have no smooth surface, but the allen screw can be used from either side. I am trying to determine type of side mirror are "correct" for the 67 coupe. And if they are made for left and right side of the car or both work for either side of the car. New 67 owner, Thanks, Dwayne

        Dwayne-----


        Your mirror can be repaired. Many years ago Terry McManmon had an article published in the Restorer covering repair of just the problem you have. His article was based on early C3 outside mirrors but I believe the same repair procedure would work for a 1967 mirror. I don't recall the edition but I suspect that Terry will.

        As has been mentioned, a right side mirror is not original for any 1967 Corvette. No 1967 Corvette ever had a factory-installed right side mirror; any that are found had them dealer or owner installed at some point in the car's life.

        By the way, if your mirror glass is at all deteriorated, it can be replaced as part of the mirror repair process. Dated reproduction mirror glass is easily available.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Neal K.
          Very Frequent User
          • October 31, 2007
          • 303

          #5
          Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

          Dwayne
          My early 67 convertible(September 66 production) had a bowtie mirror on the drivers side only. No mirror on the passenger side. Years ago the mirror became loose and the wind would move it out of position. I replaced it with a date coded reproduction which I thought looked very good.
          Neal

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          • Dale M.
            Expired
            • December 27, 2007
            • 386

            #6
            Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

            If anyone comes across the article on restoring mirrows, please post it on this threat. Thanks

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            • Frank E.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 1986
              • 189

              #7
              Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

              It's an easy fix. First, the mirror is held in place by a ring that can be carefully removed from the mirror. Once that's out there are 3 springs that supply tension to the mirror that holds it tight against the snap ring that you just removed. The springs just sit in there so you can remove them which will allow access to the pot metal fasteners that hold a steel strap tightly against the outside ball. Over the years, this method of applying tension to the mirror has loosened up. ALl you need to do at this point is to take a punch and peen the pot metal down so that the steel band tightens up against the two posts. Then reassemble in the opposite order. Very easy to do.....
              Frank


              1966 Milano Maroon Roadster
              2004 CE Z06

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              • Dwayne E.
                Expired
                • September 6, 2013
                • 9

                #8
                Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                Thanks Frank. I will give this a try. Dwayne67 Marlboro Maroon

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                • Dale M.
                  Expired
                  • December 27, 2007
                  • 386

                  #9
                  Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                  Is there some technique to removing the snap-ring? I can't seem to get anything behind it to get it out.

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                    Here's an article by Dave Zuberer on removing the glass and repairing the loose mirror pivot. The '67 JG describes which mirror (Bowtie vs. non-Bowtie) is typical based on the VIN range.


                    MirrorRepairOutsideDZ.pdf

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15599

                      #11
                      Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Dwayne-----


                      Your mirror can be repaired. Many years ago Terry McManmon had an article published in the Restorer covering repair of just the problem you have. His article was based on early C3 outside mirrors but I believe the same repair procedure would work for a 1967 mirror. I don't recall the edition but I suspect that Terry will.

                      As has been mentioned, a right side mirror is not original for any 1967 Corvette. No 1967 Corvette ever had a factory-installed right side mirror; any that are found had them dealer or owner installed at some point in the car's life.

                      By the way, if your mirror glass is at all deteriorated, it can be replaced as part of the mirror repair process. Dated reproduction mirror glass is easily available.
                      Thanks for the credit Joe, but the C2 mirror glass is retained differently than the C3, and my article was about the C3. Once the mirror glass is out the process is the same, however.
                      Terry

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                      • Frank E.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1986
                        • 189

                        #12
                        Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                        Originally posted by Dale Maris (48325)
                        Is there some technique to removing the snap-ring? I can't seem to get anything behind it to get it out.
                        Gently press on the glass near the edge where the snap ring ends and with a 90* scribe, go between the mirror and snap ring and hook the back of the snap ring and start to pull it out so that the end is away from the mirror housing. At that point you can work it our real easy.....
                        Frank


                        1966 Milano Maroon Roadster
                        2004 CE Z06

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                        • Dwayne E.
                          Expired
                          • September 6, 2013
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                          John. Thank you for the article. Makes it much simpler. Dwayne

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                          • Patrick C.
                            Expired
                            • July 31, 1989
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                            The build date on my 1967 is March 13 1967. Were any outside mirrors factory installed WITHOUT a snap ring to retain the glass?

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                            • Gerard F.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 30, 2004
                              • 3805

                              #15
                              Re: 67 outside mirror confusion

                              Dwayne,

                              Here's a thread from 2004 in regard to my 67 Loose Mirror - Snap to fix:

                              https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...t=Loose+Mirror

                              There is a picture of my setup in the second post.
                              This thread resulted in my first Restorer article published late 2004 or 2005.

                              However, I found that my method of tightening the mirror with a couple of pops with a hammer only lasted a couple or three years, and became loose again.

                              The method detailed above in the Dave Zuberer article of tapping the stud and using a screw is much more lasting and you can go back in and tighten it up again, if need be. I re-did a 67 mirror with the screw method.

                              I used a #4 screw and tap on just one of the studs. If both studs are loose then you should do both sides.
                              The only difference from the Zuberer article in this last project was that I used a flat head beveled screw with a couple of oversize washers to go around the stud base. The screw head actually set lower, so as to not interfere with the mirror backing. I also used Loctite on the screw to keep it from loosening up.

                              Have fun,
                              Jerry Fuccillo
                              1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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