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  • Lyndon S.
    Expired
    • April 30, 1988
    • 1027

    Founders award

    Would like to go for a founders, I am signed up for flight judging at La chapter regional. What do I need to do to for the founders at the regional.?
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15596

    #2
    Re: Founders award

    Originally posted by Lyndon Sharpton (12791)
    Would like to go for a founders, I am signed up for flight judging at La chapter regional. What do I need to do to for the founders at the regional.?
    Best to check the NCRS Judging Reference Manual -- the 8th Edition is the latest IIRC.

    From memory, which is not so good, as y'all have heard me state before. It is also late at night. I maybe shouldn’t even post this because I might muddy the waters, but I’ll try.

    Register for Founders judging at a Chapter Meet . Drive to that Chapter Meet, and pass the founders operation Operations check. (I can not remember if the car has to be Flight Judged or not -- look it up.

    AFTER the Chapter meet; do the same thing for a Regional.

    Then after the Regional do the same thing for a National Convention, but this time you also have to join the Road Tour for at least 500 miles of the drive. LOOPHOLE: You only have to drive that 500 miles TO the convention. After the convention you can load the car on a trailer to get home, if you want.

    There all sorts of other requirements: Same car to all those events?? Time limit to do this?? I can not remember -- it has been too long and there are too many other awards to get it confused with. That is why I recommend looking it up for yourself. It would be a shame to do most of this, but fail on a technicality because someone like me posted the wrong information.
    Terry

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    • Lyndon S.
      Expired
      • April 30, 1988
      • 1027

      #3
      Re: Founders award

      So I should have done the first one at chapter level , I just done one for flight judging. To get a base line on the car, at the time I was not really knowing what I was going to do with this car.

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15596

        #4
        Re: Founders award

        Originally posted by Lyndon Sharpton (12791)
        So I should have done the first one at chapter level , I just done one for flight judging. To get a base line on the car, at the time I was not really knowing what I was going to do with this car.
        I am pretty sure they have to be in order. If you belong to a Chapter you may be able to put on a mini judging event at your location, and have it count as a Chapter Meet. There are advantages to the Chapter to do this sort of thing -- it can count toward their Chapter Top Flight Award. Talk to the Chapter Judging Chair, and the Chapter Activities Chair. Of course if you don't belong to the Chapter the chances are reduced.

        If you look at my profile you will see a Chapter Judging of my 1970 in Berwyn, IL. The only NCRS Chapter meet ever held in that town, and just by coincidence I happen to still reside there. See what I mean?
        Terry

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        • Arland D.
          Moderator
          • July 31, 1980
          • 418

          #5
          Re: Founders award

          Lyndon,

          You really need to get a Judging Reference Manual to prepare for participating in any of the NCRS programs. As far as the Founders goes, you have three years to accomplish the following:

          Be a member of any NCRS chapter continuously during the three years
          Achieve any flight award at a chapter meet driven both ways
          Achieve a 96% Founders Operations score at a regional meet driven both ways (different than a flight operations)
          Achieve a level one or higher in the judging or tabulating recognition program
          Submit and gain approval for publication of at least one article in the Corvette Restorer Magazine
          Participate in a planned and recognized road tour for at least the last 500 miles
          Display at the National Convention and again achieve a 96% Founders Operations score

          Again, it would be in your best interest to acquire a Judging Reference Manual to prepare for any NCRS judged program. Let us know how it all turns out.

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          • Lyndon S.
            Expired
            • April 30, 1988
            • 1027

            #6
            Re: Founders award

            I have all the manuals ,guess I should read that one some more.

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15596

              #7
              Re: Founders award

              Originally posted by Lyndon Sharpton (12791)
              I have all the manuals ,guess I should read that one some more.
              And I should too, but I was short on time last night. Thanks to Arland for the accurate information. Arland does it have to be with the same car at each event? That part has been bugging me.
              Terry

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              • Reba W.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 1985
                • 937

                #8
                Re: Founders award

                Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                And I should too, but I was short on time last night. Thanks to Arland for the accurate information. Arland does it have to be with the same car at each event? That part has been bugging me.
                I believe it does have to be the same car, Terry. Of course, I only own the one and that is what I drove for Founders. The plaque has the VIN on it just like a Duntov or Bowtie Award. I think that Sportsman is the only award which allows use of different cars.

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                • Arland D.
                  Moderator
                  • July 31, 1980
                  • 418

                  #9
                  Re: Founders award

                  Terry,

                  Reba is correct that the Founders is achieved with one car while the Sportsman can be accomplished using more than one car.

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                  • Lyndon S.
                    Expired
                    • April 30, 1988
                    • 1027

                    #10
                    Re: Founders award

                    What about the Sam Folz award that is only given at nat's does one have to sign up for that? Are is any car that is driven to the meet in the running for the Folz award? An I don't have my books with me to night.

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15596

                      #11
                      Re: Founders award

                      Originally posted by Lyndon Sharpton (12791)
                      What about the Sam Folz award that is only given at nat's does one have to sign up for that? Are is any car that is driven to the meet in the running for the Folz award? An I don't have my books with me to night.
                      From Page 37 of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual 8th Edition: " .... The NCRS Sam Folz Memorial Award will be presented only at National Convention to the owner of a car driven the greatest distance to attend and successfully judged a Top Flight car, including mileage points. Should similar mileage results occur, multiple awards may be presented. The owner or a family member must drive or travel in the car to the Convention to achieve this award. Contact the National Judging Chairman for additional information."

                      I cheated this time -- I looked it up.

                      Edit add: Someone drove a 1963 over 4000 miles to the Convention in Hampton, but I am not sure that car was judged. However, that might give you some idea of the kind of competition you might be in for. The Sam Folz Award is highly coveted and there is stiff competition.
                      Last edited by Terry M.; August 21, 2013, 06:52 AM. Reason: grammer
                      Terry

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                      • Arland D.
                        Moderator
                        • July 31, 1980
                        • 418

                        #12
                        Re: Founders award

                        Lyndon,

                        It appears that you live in the middle part of the country so it will be difficult to be the longest driven at a national without some extra effort and extra planning ahead of time. If you lived in the Northwest, being longest driven would be more likely when attending Eastern nationals :-)

                        Arland

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                        • Ed D.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1990
                          • 329

                          #13
                          Re: Founders award

                          For Sam Foltz if you need additional mileage to be competive for the award you can join muliple road tours around the country to add to your mileage. Make sure that the National Judging Chair knows what your plans are. Requires some careful planning to achieve this award.
                          Ed DiNapoli
                          CNJ Chapter Past Chairman/Co Founder

                          1972 Targa Blue Coupe, Original Owner,
                          Duntov Award, Sam Foltz Award,
                          Founders Award, NCRS Gallery VIII
                          2011 Corvette Convertible
                          NCRS Presidents Award 2014

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                          • Roy S.
                            Past National Judging Chairman
                            • July 31, 1979
                            • 1025

                            #14
                            Re: Founders award

                            Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                            Someone drove a 1963 over 4000 miles to the Convention in Hampton, but I am not sure that car was judged.
                            Yes - it was judged and it did receive a Top Flight

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