1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

[William H.]

Hello again guys,
I'm still working on the inside heat and A/C box on my 65 coupe. When cleaning it up I found two things that seem to be factory but don't make much sense. Im looking for some one else who has done this job and has pictures or remembers these items. I am incloing some pictures for clarification. The first thing is the bottom of the main box to the right of the duct that comes under it for the dash vents there is what appears to be undercoating or some sort of spray on insulation. The only thing I can figure is that it was for sound deadening or to keep the box from sweating when the A/C is on?? I can' imagine somone doing this later on?
Then the next question is about the black cover that goes on the front of this box. In the picture in the corner you can see whats left of some very flat very thin silver paint. IT was all over this piece until I cleaned it off and then I worried that it is supposed to be there. I thought maybe so that the black plastic didn't stand out so much against the Brt Blue carpet and Dash. But I'm not sure if you can even see this piece with the dash in the car? Mine is completely out right now. There is some of the undercoating that is on the main box, on this piece as well, and the silver paint is under the undercoating that leads me to belive that it was there from the factory or at least before the undercoating/insulation was applied. Any help or ideals would be greatly appreciated. Maybe some one with an unmolested original can weigh in? Or maybe somone with Judging experience in this area?
Thanks in advance
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[Keith B.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

I just did a 67 AC box the other month and did not find any undercoating or silver paint any where on it

[Page C.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Agree with Keith. I have had several air cond. inside boxes and none have had any paint overspray or undercoating. The boxes were installed after the car was painted.

[William H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Thanks for answering Page,
The paint did not look like overspray it was very evenly sprayed but very thin. I think If it was overspray it would have been on the heater box as well and it was not. there was some grey primer overspry on both pieces but that was from my painter on the last repaint and is not the paint that I am asking about. Im sorry I didn take a picture of it before I stripped it off. IT was just a very thin and flat silver color but definitely silver and not grey.The car was painted Blue and the part I'm talking about was painted silver. Someone intentionally painted it Im just not sure who. Factory or previous owners. So to be clear on both of your cars the plastic cover is black plastic with no paint on it at all and the heater box is entirely bare fiberglass?
Thanks
Bill

[John H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

So to be clear on both of your cars the plastic cover is black plastic with no paint on it at all and the heater box is entirely bare fiberglass?
Thanks
Bill

Bill -

Photos below show the inside A/C box as-installed; no paint, no insulation.


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[William H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Thanks John,
What year car is this? Is the frt cover that I sent pictures of Plastic or fiberglass? In your pictures it looks alot like the fiberglass main case where as mine is very shiny black plastic. Once again Im wandering if somone was trying to lower the contrast between this very black and very shiny plastic and the rest of the car? This is a very early 65 car s/n 3259 I belive Nov 20,64 build date.
I dont think the car has been messed with too much but the previous owner did like to customize a litttle, for instance he thought the Nassau blue outside and the Brt blue inside was just a little too much so he painted the Halo and the window trim Black and put Black seat backs on. So I guess he could have painted this part too. It is just that the way the paint is applied so thin and evenly I'm sure it was not a spray can job. Looks like maybee airbrush or spray gun. But what is really strange is how well it stuck to the shiny plastic as I really had to scrub it with alcohol for a long time to get it off and there is no evidence of it having ever been sanded. Does this piece show at all when it is in the car?
Thanks
Bill

[James W.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Bill,

I've attached a few picrture of my "as-removed" interior A/C box from my late production '65 Corvette #220XX. I also found no evidence of any undercoating or paint that had been applied to any interior surfaces. It may have at one time leaked condensation when the A/C was in use and someone tried to seal it with some spray undercoating.


Best Regards,

James West

[William H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Thanks James,
Once again can I ask is the frt small cover very shiny black plastic like mine? You can see yourself in mine it is so shiny. I am wandering if that is why it was painted? Everyone else's that has been posted pictures here looks to be about the same lustre as the fiberglass main box. Im wandering if anyone has a late 64 or very early 65 like mine that could weigh in. I'm also wandering if anyone knows if they make this frt cover as a replacement part. Maybe that is what mine is and that is why it is so shiny?
Thanks again,
Bill

[James W.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Bill,

Attached are the picture of my unrestored interior A/C duct work. I hope this helps.

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Regards,

James West

Thanks James,
Once again can I ask is the frt small cover very shiny black plastic like mine? You can see yourself in mine it is so shiny. I am wandering if that is why it was painted? Everyone else's that has been posted pictures here looks to be about the same lustre as the fiberglass main box. Im wandering if anyone has a late 64 or very early 65 like mine that could weigh in. I'm also wandering if anyone knows if they make this frt cover as a replacement part. Maybe that is what mine is and that is why it is so shiny?
Thanks again,
Bill

[William H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Is this from the same car as what you posted above? IT looks to me like the duct in the first picture that feeds the right hand side duct/ vent has the same dull silver paint on it? and also the cover that I am interested in behind the right hand side duct is not shiny at all. SO either it is different plastic or it is painted too?
TO me that is just what the picture looks like. As you can see a marked contrast between the frt duct on the left and the dark black coupling that mates it to the right side duct. Thanks for the pictures and taking the time to post them!
Bill

[James W.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

Bill,

Yes, the pictures are from the same car. The duct is not painted, I believe that it is how the part was molded from the original manufcturer. When I had it out of the car for the heater core replacement and heat/AC box cleaning and replacement of the internal seals I cleaned all the piece of A/C duct work inside and out and found no evidence of any of the pieces be externally painted. Let me know if you need any further pictures.


Regards,

James West

Is this from the same car as what you posted above? IT looks to me like the duct in the first picture that feeds the right hand side duct/ vent has the same dull silver paint on it? and also the cover that I am interested in behind the right hand side duct is not shiny at all. SO either it is different plastic or it is painted too?
TO me that is just what the picture looks like. As you can see a marked contrast between the frt duct on the left and the dark black coupling that mates it to the right side duct. Thanks for the pictures and taking the time to post them!
Bill

[William H.]

Re: 1965 Coupe Inside Heat and Air Conditioner Box questions

OK James,
Thanks but that duct looks just like mine did before I took the alcohol and cleaned it. I wouldn't be surprised if you soaked a rag in enamal reducer or alcohol that the silver on your duct would come off too. I had to press and rub pretty hard but it eventually all came off. I am going to put it back based upon your picture.
Thanks again
Bill