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  • D S.
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    • March 1, 2005
    • 1551

    C-3 intake manifold bolts

    I have been reading archived posts and viewing photos of various headmarks such as F, M, NAT on intake manifold bolts. Photos of original bolts show non-flanged heads with tapered edges but reproductions show flanged with recessed heads. Did original bolts use lock washers? Where might one truly find original style intake manifold bolts? I have the LS-5 engine.

    Thanks,
    Scott Sims
    Texas Chapter
  • Thomas H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 2005
    • 1058

    #2
    Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

    Check this thread. Has some good info.

    https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...ghlight=intake

    Tom

    PS: No lockwashers
    1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
    1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
    1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
    1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
    1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
    2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

    Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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    • D S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 1, 2005
      • 1551

      #3
      Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

      Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
      Check this thread. Has some good info.

      https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...ghlight=intake

      Tom

      PS: No lockwashers

      Thanks for that. While I recognize that there was no consistency of specific ones being installed this is the thread that confused me after seeing other photos of members intake manifolds including Terry McManmon's original intake. His are recessed flanged head but photos in the thread below aren't.

      https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...manifold+bolts

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15599

        #4
        Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

        Originally posted by D Scott Sims (43568)
        Thanks for that. While I recognize that there was no consistency of specific ones being installed this is the thread that confused me after seeing other photos of members intake manifolds including Terry McManmon's original intake. His are recessed flanged head but photos in the thread below aren't.

        https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...manifold+bolts
        My intake manifold fasteners (and there are 7 different head marks/styles) are not going to help you much. Your engine was assembled in Tonawanda New York and mine in Flint Michigan. Any similar fasteners is just a coincidence.
        Terry

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        • Thomas H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 2005
          • 1058

          #5
          Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

          The ones on my original 71 LS5, early sept 70 build have the recesses head with flange as well as a "standard" head with no flange on the lift bracket and plug wire holders.

          I believe this is the same config as Terry was talking about

          I'll double check this when I get home............

          Tom
          1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
          1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
          1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
          1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
          1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
          2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

          Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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          • D S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 2005
            • 1551

            #6
            Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

            So, if I get as many variations of 454 intake bolts as there are holes I would be totally correct. Thanks, Terry.

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            • D S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 2005
              • 1551

              #7
              Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

              Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
              The ones on my original 71 LS5, early sept 70 build have the recesses head with flange as well as a "standard" head with no flange on the lift bracket and plug wire holders.

              I believe this is the same config as Terry was talking about

              I'll double check this when I get home............

              Tom
              Thanks, Tom. I appreciate it.

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              • Monte M.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1991
                • 687

                #8
                Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                Scott,
                I have been working on the same thing for quite a while now.

                I have a number of different bolts that were used and I have seen some very original cars with different bolts that have never been mentioned before at all.

                As you know, my car is a 72, so that is what I have focused on. I will send you some pictures to your regular e-mail.

                I will do my best to tell you what I have been told. The problem is, every time I talk to another person, I quite often hear something new.

                Good luck on this one.

                I know a guy that just bought a very original 72. I have not found anything not original to the car, but we are just beginning.
                He was going to start a restoration on the car, but I think at this point he is just going to clean it up a bit. From the outside the car is really nice.
                The rest of the car looks like it has been used the way it was supposed to be.

                Monte

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                • D S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 2005
                  • 1551

                  #9
                  Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                  Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)
                  Scott,
                  I have been working on the same thing for quite a while now.

                  I have a number of different bolts that were used and I have seen some very original cars with different bolts that have never been mentioned before at all.

                  As you know, my car is a 72, so that is what I have focused on. I will send you some pictures to your regular e-mail.

                  I will do my best to tell you what I have been told. The problem is, every time I talk to another person, I quite often hear something new.

                  Good luck on this one.

                  I know a guy that just bought a very original 72. I have not found anything not original to the car, but we are just beginning.
                  He was going to start a restoration on the car, but I think at this point he is just going to clean it up a bit. From the outside the car is really nice.
                  The rest of the car looks like it has been used the way it was supposed to be.

                  Monte
                  Monte, I advise people who have never reached their pinnacle of stress to attain that by having their Corvettes judged.

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                  • Monte M.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 1991
                    • 687

                    #10
                    Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                    Here are some of them

                    Enginepullinghardwareadj.jpgIntakewith3radiousandRectangleadj.jpg

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                    • Monte M.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 1991
                      • 687

                      #11
                      Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                      Here is a few more.

                      Monte


                      IntakewithFPadj.jpgIntakewithS2adj.jpg

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                      • Thomas H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 2005
                        • 1058

                        #12
                        Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                        From my 71 LS5 mentioned earlier. Three types of bolts, flange head, recessed flange head (shielding brackets) and standard head (lifting bracket).

                        Mind you, this is a non-judged car, but I was the first one in the engine. (I know the dist hold down bolt is not correct, that one got misplaced..................)

                        TomP7180545.jpgP7180543.jpgP7180542.jpgP7180538.jpg
                        1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                        1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                        1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                        1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                        1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                        2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                        Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                        • D S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 1, 2005
                          • 1551

                          #13
                          Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                          Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
                          From my 71 LS5 mentioned earlier. Three types of bolts, flange head, recessed flange head (shielding brackets) and standard head (lifting bracket).

                          Mind you, this is a non-judged car, but I was the first one in the engine. (I know the dist hold down bolt is not correct, that one got misplaced..................)

                          Tom[ATTACH=CONFIG]47324[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]47325[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]47326[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]47327[/ATTACH]

                          Thanks for replying with photos. I have I unpainted aluminum 'A' headmark non-flanged bolts on my intake. Thanks to all who responded.

                          Scott

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                          • D S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • March 1, 2005
                            • 1551

                            #14
                            Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                            Reviving this thread. I stated that my intake bolts were aluminum but they are not. They are zinc plated something. A source sent me photos of original 'A' headmark bolts ('A' within a circle), shaved head with built in washer. They appear to be zinc plated. Is that correct? I mean, they are going to be painted orange anyway.

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43219

                              #15
                              Re: C-3 intake manifold bolts

                              Originally posted by D Scott Sims (43568)
                              Reviving this thread. I stated that my intake bolts were aluminum but they are not. They are zinc plated something. A source sent me photos of original 'A' headmark bolts ('A' within a circle), shaved head with built in washer. They appear to be zinc plated. Is that correct? I mean, they are going to be painted orange anyway.

                              Scott-----


                              You'll look a long while on a Corvette before you find an aluminum bolt. I can't think of a single application for an aluminum bolt on a Corvette. Aluminum bolts are a very specialty item. ALL manifold bolts on Corvettes are steel.

                              On small blocks, GM generally used black phosphate-finished manifold bolts for engines with cast iron manifolds (i.e. to be painted) and zinc plated for those with aluminum manifolds. For big blocks, I'm not sure if the same practice was used. However, as you mention, it's really a moot point. Engines with cast iron manifolds will have the bolts painted.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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