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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5134

    Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

    I started the 41k mile 4-star bowtie almond beige 62 in preparation for a July 4th show, and the water pump is making noise: confirmed by the screwdriver to ear trick.
    Not only is this the original water pump, but the hoses and clamps are still all the originals and never touched.
    I, of course, can just leave it and let the car sit, but I'm a believer in driving them at least occasionally. If I let it sit, it will not fix itself.
    If I drive it as is, I soon put the radiator at risk from a flying fan blade.
    my questions:
    1) what tips do you have for removing the original heater and radiator hoses without damaging them? I know the heat with a heat gun trick, but am afraid that might not be adequate. These have been there for 51 1/2 years.
    2). Who would you trust to do a sympathetic rebuild of the water pump? Arthur Gould? Someone else? (no cosmetics, just function)
    Thanks for your help!
    Mike
    Last edited by Mike E.; July 5, 2013, 12:06 PM.
  • Mike G.
    Expired
    • December 31, 1990
    • 418

    #2
    Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

    Rev:

    I would first soften the rubber by wrapping a towel around it and then pouring on very hot water. Once softened, I would use one of those U-shaped pick tools to free up the rubber from the fitting surface. Pushing on the hose seems to work better than pulling (think Chinese handcuffs).

    Can't offer any suggestion on the WP rebuilder. With a press, it's a pretty simple DIY job. "Dakoninc" on E*bay sells a good kit for under $50 including a nice hub.

    MAG

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    • John D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • November 30, 1979
      • 5507

      #3
      Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

      Rev Mike, Before you take the car apart you could try a cheater. Go to CarQuest or Napa (I forget which one) and buy "Irontite". Stops gasket leaks and lubricates water pump seals.
      I used it on my 1928 Ford with the original 4 cylinder in it. The head gasket was leaking big time. Irontite fixed it in 20 minutes. JD

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      • Rick G.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 28, 1983
        • 270

        #4
        Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

        Hi Mike,

        I would definitely use Arthur Gould. I have found him to be a very honest and reputable man. As far as trying to do it myself, I would pass since your pump is most probably a 609. It would be a shame to crack the housing.

        Best of luck,
        Rick

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        • John F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 23, 2008
          • 2395

          #5
          Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

          Mike, I used Bill Mock on my red 62. Excellet work. He is NCRS #93. (918)333-0748. If you do take it off, measure the distance that the shaft is pressed on correctly. That way everything lines up after. One of those 90* screw drivers work good as well on the hoses. Proceed slowly if trying to save the original hose.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 31, 1988
            • 43194

            #6
            Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
            I started the 41k mile 4-star bowtie almond beige 62 in preparation for a July 4th show, and the water pump is making noise: confirmed by the screwdriver to ear trick.
            Not only is this the original water pump, but the hoses and clamps are still all the originals and never touched.
            I, of course, can just leave it and let the car sit, but I'm a believer in driving them at least occasionally. If I let it sit, it will not fix itself.
            If I drive it as is, I soon put the radiator at risk from a flying fan blade.
            my questions:
            1) what tips do you have for removing the original heater and radiator hoses without damaging them? I know the heat with a heat gun trick, but am afraid that might not be adequate. These have been there for 51 1/2 years.
            2). Who would you trust to do a sympathetic rebuild of the water pump? Arthur Gould? Someone else? (no cosmetics, just function)
            Thanks for your help!
            Mike

            Mike------


            I'll be amazed if after 51-1/2 years the hoses are not rotten.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Mike E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 28, 1975
              • 5134

              #7
              Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

              Joe,
              I first saw the car in 1977 at the Iola, WI car show, and was looking at it the same time as Chip Miller. I have a pic from then-the owner had driven it about 3 hours to get there. What I remember is that the upper hose was collapsed as the car cooled. It's still the same hose, and it still does the same thing. I drove the car half an hour each way last July 4 in 98 degree weather, and all hoses were fine. I am concerned that you're probably right and that's why I really don't want to have to tackle this dilemma.

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              • Mike M.
                NCRS Past President
                • May 31, 1974
                • 8366

                #8
                Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

                bill mock.get a snap-on ice pick that is bent 120 degree. heat the virgin hoses--heat gun, hot water towels, etc. i suspect the hoses are rotten but if you're careful, they will probably be re-usable for short runs. if ya take off for san diego, take spare hoses along. and pray like ya never have before. mike.

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15574

                  #9
                  Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

                  Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                  Joe,
                  I first saw the car in 1977 at the Iola, WI car show, and was looking at it the same time as Chip Miller. I have a pic from then-the owner had driven it about 3 hours to get there. What I remember is that the upper hose was collapsed as the car cooled. It's still the same hose, and it still does the same thing. I drove the car half an hour each way last July 4 in 98 degree weather, and all hoses were fine. I am concerned that you're probably right and that's why I really don't want to have to tackle this dilemma.
                  Radiator cap malfunction.
                  Terry

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                  • Robert K.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1984
                    • 213

                    #10
                    Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

                    OK I'll bite. Put a handful of laundry detergent in the radiator, honestly!

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                    • Dan B.
                      Expired
                      • July 13, 2011
                      • 545

                      #11
                      Re: Water pump dilemma--62 Bowtie car

                      Re: water pump rebuild, Ron Burke (Chevycool.com) (and an NCRS member I believe) does great work. Arthur Gould, retired and sold the business a few years ago even though it still continues under his name. Contact Ron, and I bet he could do a
                      perfect mechanical rebuild of your pump without touching the appearance if that is what you want. He will also be at Carlisle. Good luck. Dan

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