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  • D S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 2005
    • 1551

    1970 L46 pad stamp

    A person here in Texas recently purchased his first C-3. He has previously owned C-1s and C-2s. The car is a 1970 350/350 convertible with AC which is a CTJ broadcast code. He says the J is stamped backwards. Has anyone seen this or heard of other reports of this?

    Thanks,
    Scott Sims
    Texas Chapter
  • Michael W.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1997
    • 4290

    #2
    Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

    It's probably CTL and not CTJ. If so, it's a base engine car and not an L46.

    Got a pic?

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    • D S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 1, 2005
      • 1551

      #3
      Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

      There wasn't a CTL for a 1970 Corvette. Passenger car? Truck?

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      • Michael W.
        Expired
        • April 1, 1997
        • 4290

        #4
        Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

        According to my NCRS pocket book and other sources, CTL= 1970 base engine w 4 speed and qjet.

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        • D S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 1, 2005
          • 1551

          #5
          Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

          I refer you to the 1970-1972 Corvette TIM&JG, 4th Edition, page 54 read the paragraph below the broadcast codes. I found only one Internet reference to a 1970 Corvette CTL but the 1970-1972 Corvete TIM&JG takes precedence until other evidence surfaces in the 5th Edition.

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          • Mike F.
            Expired
            • April 25, 2011
            • 668

            #6
            Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

            Does the tach redline at 6k?

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            • D S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 2005
              • 1551

              #7
              Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

              Thank you! I was going to ask what notably differentiates 350/300 from 350/350 besides the distributor band (if still there) and vacuum advance if not replaced. The carburetor was replaced with a 7040502. That's for a 350/300 CE TH400, right? The car is a 4-speed.

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              • Mike F.
                Expired
                • April 25, 2011
                • 668

                #8
                Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                Yes, 0502 is for a 350/300 auto. The carbs with "5" in it are for the Evaporative Control System (NA9 - California cars). They'll have an extra vacuum port on the front side.

                FYI- I've yet to run across an L46 car with a/c even though it was available.

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                • Bill W.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 2000

                  #9
                  Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                  Mike , I am second owner of a 1970 L46 350/350 4 speed with power steering ,power brakes, & AC. # 2650 built 2/5/70 engine code CTJ .

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11643

                    #10
                    Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                    Originally posted by Mike Furline (53259)
                    Yes, 0502 is for a 350/300 auto. The carbs with "5" in it are for the Evaporative Control System (NA9 - California cars). They'll have an extra vacuum port on the front side.

                    FYI- I've yet to run across an L46 car with a/c even though it was available.
                    I know of one that's a convertible, second owner car.
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Michael W.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1997
                      • 4290

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                      Originally posted by Bill Williamson (3245)
                      Mike , I am second owner of a 1970 L46 350/350 4 speed with power steering ,power brakes, & AC. # 2650 built 2/5/70 engine code CTJ .
                      Not doubting that in the least. CTJ shows up as one of two possible '70 codes for L46 with 4 speed and AC, with CTO being the other. Maybe it's CTO and the O was only partially stamped?

                      In thinking about how engine stamps are done, I cannot imagine a 'J' stamp being manufactured backwards in the first place, never mind a backwards stamp making it all the way to the Flint production line and being used without someone noticing.

                      The 'backwards J' actually being an 'L' and CTL being a valid code (according to many references including NCRS) or a poorly stamped CTO seems to be a much simpler explanation . The car not having it's original carb does not help the case.

                      A pic of the pad would probably reveal all.

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                      • William C.
                        NCRS Past President
                        • May 31, 1975
                        • 6037

                        #12
                        Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                        The characters in the holder are retained by a rod thru a slot in the edge of ONE side of the character. Nearly impossible to get one backwards unless stamped without the holder.
                        Bill Clupper #618

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                        • Michael W.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 1997
                          • 4290

                          #13
                          Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                          Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
                          The characters in the holder are retained by a rod thru a slot in the edge of ONE side of the character. Nearly impossible to get one backwards unless stamped without the holder.
                          That would make it upside down, but not backward.

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                          • D S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • March 1, 2005
                            • 1551

                            #14
                            Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                            Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
                            Not doubting that in the least. CTJ shows up as one of two possible '70 codes for L46 with 4 speed and AC, with CTO being the other. Maybe it's CTO and the O was only partially stamped?

                            In thinking about how engine stamps are done, I cannot imagine a 'J' stamp being manufactured backwards in the first place, never mind a backwards stamp making it all the way to the Flint production line and being used without someone noticing.

                            The 'backwards J' actually being an 'L' and CTL being a valid code (according to many references including NCRS) or a poorly stamped CTO seems to be a much simpler explanation . The car not having it's original carb does not help the case.

                            A pic of the pad would probably reveal all.


                            I agree, Michael. I have never seen or heard of a backward suffix code letter stamping but I don't have the broader view of Corvettes that the NCRS judges do. I sent an email to the owner asking for clear photos of the suffix code lettering, distributor tag number, vacuum advance number, and tachometer redline as suggested from a responder here. When I get replies from the owner I will reply to this post with his answers. Might have to edit the answers if he discovers he bought a 350/300 rather than a misrepresented 350/350.
                            Thanks for your input.

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                            • William C.
                              NCRS Past President
                              • May 31, 1975
                              • 6037

                              #15
                              Re: 1970 L46 pad stamp

                              Any chance of a crisp sharp picture?
                              Bill Clupper #618

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