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  • Matthew D.
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    • July 8, 2012
    • 8

    Igntion Breaker Points

    '63 coupe 327/340 with SHP. Anyone know the make/part # of the points and condenser? I'm assuming they are delco but coulnd't find any guidance in the tech/judging guide. Thanks in advance.

    Matt
  • Michael M.
    Expired
    • February 7, 2011
    • 186

    #2
    Re: Igntion Breaker Points

    Originally posted by Matthew Dunn (55122)
    '63 coupe 327/340 with SHP. Anyone know the make/part # of the points and condenser? I'm assuming they are delco but coulnd't find any guidance in the tech/judging guide. Thanks in advance.

    Matt
    There are a number of different Delco ignition parts that will work. I listed some of the current numbers below that are readily available at places like Summit:

    For points, I like the D106PS – terminals attach with a screw. There’s also a D106P; and D1007 with integral condenser.

    The separate condenser is a D204.

    I use rotor number D426R and distributor cap D308R.

    I’m sure others will chime in with their preferred numbers.
    Last edited by Michael M.; May 13, 2013, 11:52 AM.

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    • William F.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 9, 2009
      • 1363

      #3
      Re: Igntion Breaker Points

      Nice article in a fairly recent Restorer. My question is: are part numbers given applicable for dual point distributors like in the 340 hp 327 or are they different?

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      • William C.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1975
        • 6037

        #4
        Re: Igntion Breaker Points

        340 327 ok, the 283 2x4 bbl versions used the points that had to be adjusted with the cap off.
        Bill Clupper #618

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        • Tim S.
          Very Frequent User
          • May 31, 1990
          • 704

          #5
          Re: Igntion Breaker Points

          Matt,

          Here is the draft Duke had written for the article that appeared in the Restorer.

          Tim


          NAPA Echlin Contact Sets (Ignition Points)
          by Duke Williams and Tim Schuetz
          Photos by Ed Vignone
          For many years confusion has reigned over the various contact sets sold by NAPA under the Echlin
          brand. There are six Echlin contact sets applicable to Delco single-point distributors not including the
          "uniset" that combines the points and condenser in a single assembly. NAPA also sells a price leader
          line called Mileage Plus and a couple of other contact sets in different brands.
          You can see all them at
          www.napaonline.com, and if you know how to use this Web site (which is a
          your distributor boils down to the condition of your distributor, your
          driving habits, and, perhaps, some experimentation. My bet is that a majority of single-point
          distributors out there are in need of a blueprint overhaul. Sloppy endplay, excess shaft bushing
          clearance, and wobbly breaker plates will not allow peak performance, even in base engines. If the
          ignition system does not deliver a properly timed spark of sufficient energy for all operating
          conditions, the engine will never achieve peak performance and fuel economy. It's that simple!
          Nominal point life is about 30,000 miles, but varies widely depending on ignition system configuration,
          condition, and operating conditions. Since most of our cars have low annual mileage accumulation, it
          is a good idea to check rubbing block lubrication every couple of years, and while you're at it, check
          point resistance and dwell angle. Dwell angle changes due to contact surface and rubbing block wear
          affect initial timing, therefore checking initial timing is also a good idea after you have checked and, if
          necessary, adjusted dwell. Throw in the idle speed/mixture adjustment procedure, and you have done
          a minor tune-up in less time than a wash job.
          Thank-you Tim Schuetz for providing the test samples. Tim did not want them back, so I auctionedoff
          the standard breaker arm tension contact sets at our February Southern California Chapter
          judging school with proceeds earmarked to the Chapter Charity Program. I retained the high breaker
          arm tension contact sets for further evaluation.

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          • Michael J.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 27, 2009
            • 7118

            #6
            Re: Igntion Breaker Points

            I always just go to the NAPA counter and tell them what I need, I get what Duke describes.
            Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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            • Matthew D.
              Expired
              • July 8, 2012
              • 8

              #7
              Re: Igntion Breaker Points

              Wow Tim, extremely informative, thanks for posting that. In an effort to be as close to original as possible I ended up buying a set of original still in the foil package delco points off fleabay (the D106P). We'll see how they work out otherwise Ill reference the article for something better. The burnt up points that were on there had the felt lubricating pad attached which I see mentioned. How important, in your opinion is the pad to have as far as operation and longevity?? Car is run about 500 miles a year.

              Thanks

              Matt

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: Igntion Breaker Points

                Originally posted by Matthew Dunn (55122)
                Car is run about 500 miles a year.

                Thanks

                Matt
                Matt -

                At that rate, your new points should be good for 25 years.

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