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  • Eugene V.
    Frequent User
    • August 21, 2011
    • 85

    1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

    Hello,

    Does anyone have a photo of the TCS thermal switch lead from the switch in the cylinder head to the wiring harness? I want to see the routing and try to determine the appropriate length of the lead. The replacement lead that I have appears to be much too long.

    Thanks,

    Gene Ventura
    Last edited by Eugene V.; April 24, 2013, 11:31 AM. Reason: Accuracy
  • Warren F.
    Expired
    • November 30, 1987
    • 1516

    #2
    Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

    Gene,
    I'm sure someone will chime in with a photo soon. The wire harness when connected to the TCS switch runs forward along the rocker arm cover to the front engine lift bracket, around it and runs rearward along the rocker arm cover back to the firewall being held in place by the metal tangs of the rocker arm cover.

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    • Eugene V.
      Frequent User
      • August 21, 2011
      • 85

      #3
      Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

      Warren,

      Thanks for your reply.

      I was unclear with my first request so I will try it again. I am interested in the lead for the thermal switch in the passenger side cylinder head to the wiring harness.

      Thanks again,

      Gene Ventura

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      • Monte M.
        Expired
        • December 31, 1990
        • 687

        #4
        Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

        Eugene,
        When I was doing research on the TCS for my 72 with a 454 in it, I saved pictures of 70-72 TCS set-ups. I have some pictures of 1971 big block, but I am not sure exactly where your TCS is.

        If this is where your TCS is, the other picture is the jumper, if I am not mistaken.
        Again, I know the 1972 TCS really well, but nobody else chimed in, sio I thought I would at least try to help.

        EDIT: after looking at it longer, it does not appear to be the correct jumper. Sorry.
        Monte

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        • Eugene V.
          Frequent User
          • August 21, 2011
          • 85

          #5
          Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

          Monte,

          Thanks for your reply

          Actually,that is the jumper in question. It runs from the harness to the switch in the head. It appears to be much longer than required. I was hoping for a photo of a big block setup. The placement of the TCS relay differers between a '70 and a '71 and '72 and I am not certain if that affects the jumper length for each respective year or not.

          I did find a photo of that jumper on a small block and I will use that as a routing and length guide if all else fails.

          Thanks again,

          Gene Ventura

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #6
            Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

            Originally posted by Eugene Ventura (53718)
            Monte,

            Thanks for your reply

            Actually,that is the jumper in question. It runs from the harness to the switch in the head. It appears to be much longer than required. I was hoping for a photo of a big block setup. The placement of the TCS relay differers between a '70 and a '71 and '72 and I am not certain if that affects the jumper length for each respective year or not.

            I did find a photo of that jumper on a small block and I will use that as a routing and length guide if all else fails.

            Thanks again,

            Gene Ventura
            Gene,

            The "jumper" in Monte's reply is for the temperature sensor in the passenger side head. I have seen some wiring harnesses with the separate harness shown by Monte and some that have that harness as an integral part of the wiring harness. You are right in that "jumper" harness is too long for your application. A little creative shrinking will make it useable.

            For 1970 BB the solenoid for the TCS ported vacuum to the distributor is on the intake manifold about centered between the two heads in front of the carburetor. I believe M Dobbins has a picture of that in the Vette Vues Fact Book 1968-1972 Corvette. I am working that from memory because that book is not accessible to me any longer.
            Terry

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1989
              • 11607

              #7
              Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

              FWIW, on the 72 small blocks I've worked on and viewed, I leave the tape ON the wiring as shown in Monte's photo and it works just fine. I suspect that Gene can do the same.

              Why is the tape there and the wire extra long? I have no idea.
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Eugene V.
                Frequent User
                • August 21, 2011
                • 85

                #8
                Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                Terry,

                Thanks for the reply.

                The wiring harness that I purchased had the jumper as an integral part of the harness, however, the harness that is currently on the car used a jumper with a connector. I am in the process of doing "A little creative shrinking", but I am trying to determine the level of creativity and the amount of "shrinkage" required.

                Thanks again,

                Gene

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15573

                  #9
                  Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                  Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                  FWIW, on the 72 small blocks I've worked on and viewed, I leave the tape ON the wiring as shown in Monte's photo and it works just fine. I suspect that Gene can do the same.

                  Why is the tape there and the wire extra long? I have no idea.
                  I would venture a guess. It is that long so the vendor can sell the same part to folks with cars with much larger engine compartments -- say Chevelle or other A-body cars, or full size Chevrolet (B-body) or who knows maybe even Cadillac.
                  Terry

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • November 30, 1989
                    • 11607

                    #10
                    Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                    Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                    I would venture a guess. It is that long so the vendor can sell the same part to folks with cars with much larger engine compartments -- say Chevelle or other A-body cars, or full size Chevrolet (B-body) or who knows maybe even Cadillac.
                    Could be.

                    I should see if I have the original from one of the cars and verify length.
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Monte M.
                      Expired
                      • December 31, 1990
                      • 687

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                      Here is a picture of a 1970 big block. How you described the location of the TCS switch, I assumed it was a small block you were asking about.
                      Thiswill only give you an idea, but at least it is something.

                      EDIT; Your title does say LS-5. In reading your question, I somehow got small block in my brain. Sorry about the mistake on my part.

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                      • Eugene V.
                        Frequent User
                        • August 21, 2011
                        • 85

                        #12
                        Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                        IMG_3570.jpg


                        Monte,

                        Thanks again for your reply.

                        Since a picture is worth a thousand words here is a photo of the TCS switch I am referring to. It is just to the left of the dipstick. I am hoping to find a photo with the jumper in place showing the correct length and routing.

                        Thanks to everyone for thier help,

                        Gene

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                        • Chris H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • March 31, 2000
                          • 837

                          #13
                          Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                          Photo from my 70 LS5, VIN 531.

                          IMG_9595.jpg
                          1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15573

                            #14
                            Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                            Originally posted by Eugene Ventura (53718)
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                            Monte,

                            Thanks again for your reply.

                            Since a picture is worth a thousand words here is a photo of the TCS switch I am referring to. It is just to the left of the dipstick. I am hoping to find a photo with the jumper in place showing the correct length and routing.

                            Thanks to everyone for thier help,

                            Gene
                            Gene,
                            That is a temperature sensor -- although it could be described as a switch because it functions as a switch. I wanted to distinguish between the sensor and the solenoid so we are sure what you are asking about.
                            Terry

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                            • Monte M.
                              Expired
                              • December 31, 1990
                              • 687

                              #15
                              Re: 1970 LS-5 tcs switch lead

                              Gene,
                              I was aware that you were looking for the wiring that attached to the head. The fact that no one else was coming up with what you needed, I would show you that that wires went to the back of the head. At that point you could guesstimate how the wires split and ran down to the sensor.
                              I am trying to locate a picture for you, but at this point is seems like you are making the jumper anyway. I would guess the having the "Y" in the jumper behind the passenger side head would do the trick for now.
                              I know that is not the result you are hoping for, but "guesstimating" in this hobby is more common than one might think.

                              Best of luck,
                              Monte

                              PS If I do get the picture from my friend, I will pass it on.

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