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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5138

    72 anti-diesel solenoid

    What part numbers are stamped on the body of these? My guess is that since they were part of the carb assembly and came from Flint, that's the reason they are not in the AIM. Same number for base motor/LT-1/LS5, or different? JG makes mention of them, but gives no numbers. Weren't they also used in 73? There's no mention of them in my 2nd edition-updated 73-74 JG that I could find.
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6942

    #2
    Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

    Mike, In 72 did they not use a idle step up solenoid for cars with A/C? I know my 72 air car has a solenoid and will step up the idle.when turned on.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Dick W.
      Former NCRS Director Region IV
      • June 30, 1985
      • 10483

      #3
      Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

      1114450 was the solenoid. Long discontinued but application was not limited to Corvette. For several years after it was discontinued you could buy an identical solenoid from Standard Parts. The last time I tried to buy one they were discontinued. Should be plenty of them in the previously used and abused storage yards (Salvage yards)
      Dick Whittington

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11643

        #4
        Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

        And, it's not that common to see the number on them if it's an orignal, old car. They usually wore off.

        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43221

          #5
          Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          And, it's not that common to see the number on them if it's an orignal, old car. They usually wore off.

          Patrick-----


          What's that last digit? I can't make it out.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11643

            #6
            Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            Patrick-----


            What's that last digit? I can't make it out.
            Me either. I'd have to go check the car.
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Mike E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 28, 1975
              • 5138

              #7
              Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

              1114450 is what's stamped on the one on the car.P3251854.jpg Sorry the pic is not clearer.

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              • Dick W.
                Former NCRS Director Region IV
                • June 30, 1985
                • 10483

                #8
                Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                I stand to be corrected but the number on Patrick's photo is for the assembly, the number on yours is the solenoid only
                Dick Whittington

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                • Edward J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 15, 2008
                  • 6942

                  #9
                  Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Patrick-----


                  What's that last digit? I can't make it out.
                  Joe--

                  Patricks part no. 1997409- thats the no. on my 72

                  Dicks part no. posted may be a big block, they are different no. ???
                  New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                  • Dick W.
                    Former NCRS Director Region IV
                    • June 30, 1985
                    • 10483

                    #10
                    Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                    Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                    Joe--

                    Patricks part no. 1997409- thats the no. on my 72

                    Dicks part no. posted may be a big block, they are different no. ???
                    Solenoid is the same as far as I know. Only thing I know that is different is the size of the muffler bearings.
                    Dick Whittington

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                    • Sal C.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • December 1, 1984
                      • 430

                      #11
                      Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                      I believe the correct number for 1972 is 1114450. 1997409 is for 1973 350 and 1997417 is 1973 454.

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11643

                        #12
                        Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                        Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                        Joe--

                        Patricks part no. 1997409- thats the no. on my 72

                        Dicks part no. posted may be a big block, they are different no. ???
                        Ed,

                        What approximate VIN? Mine is almost #23000.
                        I would not be surprised if the 1997409 made it on to late 1972 cars.
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Mike E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 28, 1975
                          • 5138

                          #13
                          Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                          Originally posted by Sal Carbone (8049)
                          I believe the correct number for 1972 is 1114450. 1997409 is for 1973 350 and 1997417 is 1973 454.
                          Is that number one that should be included in the next iteration of the JG? Thanks for the info, Sal!

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11643

                            #14
                            Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                            Is that number one that should be included in the next iteration of the JG? Thanks for the info, Sal!
                            Note that Ed and I both have the 1997409 on our 1972 cars. I'm not sure how original his is to the car but I suspect mine has been there since Day 1. It has at least been there 25 years.
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43221

                              #15
                              Re: 72 anti-diesel solenoid

                              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                              Note that Ed and I both have the 1997409 on our 1972 cars. I'm not sure how original his is to the car but I suspect mine has been there since Day 1. It has at least been there 25 years.

                              Patrick-----


                              Are you sure that number on yours is not 1997403? While it's unclear, it looks more like a 3 to me than a 9.

                              In any event, GM specified 2 different solenoids in SERVICE for 1972. These are cataloged as follows:


                              1971-72 Corvette (w/ 350, 454)------GM #1114444

                              1972 Corvette w/Rochester carb------GM #1997409

                              1973-74 Corvette w/350--------------GM #1997409

                              I believe the 1114444 was the part number for the contents of the SERVICE part package which may have included other small parts and/or instructions. The solenoid in the box was likely the 1114450. I would expect the same sort of thing for the 1997409 but it's possible the SERVICE part number was the same as on the solenoid.

                              .
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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