1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

[Ronald L.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

Jim, are you putting that 15lb battery inside something? What? Its' misleading if you aren't.... And that is 'tiny' IMHO to replace the internals of a DC-12.

It sure would be nice to see real world clear pics of what someone has that fits inside a DC-12 case, and leaves the top surface intact. I do not think its possible to do this accurately by hollowing out the bottom, all the detail we are looking for is top loaded and sealed - covered in tar.

[Jim D.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

The PC680 is a stand alone battery I used in one of the cars I've built. My point was that a "tiny" Odyssey battery equals or out performs the typical heavy lead/acid battery in daily use. I've used them for many years without issue. If you have ACTUAL experience that contradicts mine, please post it.
In case you missed it, Odyssey makes/made a battery that fits inside the OEM battery case but it's specially made for Antique Battery and not available for retail sales.

[Ronald L.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

Jim, good point, two of those things will fit in a DC-12. And solves the purported situation that you've kept alive. Odesy isn't the only Glass mat speciality battery mfgr, so with a little research....



and looking up your number I found one better, a PC925, it has about double the specs on the pc680, that one had not come up in other searches. Well from their u tube video I expect to hear from them and maybe they have a better solution.

[Joe M.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

I opened up a 7 year old Restoration Battery 2 months ago and it had an Odyssey Extreme PC925. Batteries+Bulbs sell them for $199.99. I purchased a Duracell with 500 more CCA for $150. It is an AGM.

[Joe M.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

Here is a photo of the same type of battery I took out of my old battery.IMG_20181224_120117.jpg

[Ronald L.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

Joe
Thanks for posting

Can you post pictures of the connections

Was it from the bottom or top?

[Joe M.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

I made a mistake by not taking photos. I had to use a recipricating saw to cut the battery out of the bottom of the plastic case. If you do this, do it outside and wear a dust mask. Brown dust covered everything in my garage, including me. The bottom of the Odyssey battery was glued to the flat side of the battery case. On the two short sides of the battery, it was held in place with a mixture of epoxy and asphalt. The saw blade severed both cables. I purchased two heavy gauge battery cables at Auto Zone and purchased steel butt wire connectors with large set screws from Home Depot, connected cables together and wrapped the bare cable connections to prevent shorts. The cables were on opposite sides of the battery, so unlikely that a short would occur. I used commercial strength Liquid Nails adhesive to adhere the bottom of the battery to the battery case. The plastic battery case bottom was destroyed during the removal. I cut a heavy gauge piece of steel to size and screwed it to the bottom of the case. Must use small screws to stay within the middle of the thin plastic. I sprayed the steel plate with several coats of black undercoating.

[Ronald L.]

[Jim D.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

Jim
That information you posted “exclusive...” etc is not true, it’s incorrect wrong misleading

What goes into Any of these batteries is a spec grade AGM battery

If you're referring to my post, I'm only relaying what was told to me by both Antique Battery and Bruce Essig at Odyssey. I have two Antique Batteries and I'm confused by the picture posted above by Joe. His picture shows the typical red Odyssey battery but both of mine have totally black batteries inside with no markings. In fact, I've measured the cavity of the batteries and the Odyssey battery inside of them and Odyssey does not sell a retail battery that would fit that cavity or even match the dimensions of the battery inside of them. To me, that confirms what I've been told by BOTH suppliers.

[Ronald L.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

If you are not an engineer, you might not have the background to know what AAB is telling you is impractical commercially. And it is in their interest to keep you in the dark buying new batteries, when for a lot less you could pop a new 925 inside and be on your way.

Bruce will get you key details once he knows you can handle the 12v charge.

The labels are stuck on afterwards, so not surprising its black, most are.

please posts pics and measurement data of the batteries you saw inside, it isn't going to be a special size, that would cost you $1000+ each.

[Jim D.]

Re: 1959 Restoration Battery With a smaller battery inplant.

I give up. You obviously know way more than myself and both companies. I only wish I had your infinite knowledge before dealing with these people for all these years. At least after this thread, you'll know the difference between Odyssey and Optima batteries, which you obviously didn't before.

[Ronald L.]