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  • Daniel H.
    Frequent User
    • September 1, 2011
    • 38

    Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

    Has anyone use this product to protect bare metal form rusting?http://www.npdlink.com/store/content...ns/909-11a.pdf


    Thanks,
    Danny
  • Floyd B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 1, 2002
    • 1046

    #2
    Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

    No but I have used this product with varying success - depending on environmental conditions. It claims to protect from rust for up to six months.



    This company also makes a rust remover but I have never tried it because I'm happy with the gallon of Metal Rescue I already have.
    '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
    '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
    '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
    "Drive it like you stole it"

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    • Ed N.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 16, 2010
      • 995

      #3
      Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

      Originally posted by Floyd Berus (38878)
      No but I have used this product with varying success - depending on environmental conditions. It claims to protect from rust for up to six months.



      This company also makes a rust remover but I have never tried it because I'm happy with the gallon of Metal Rescue I already have.
      I've used Evapo Rust also and it has always worked very good for me. Just soak the part in it for about one day and it comes out looking good. All rust gone. It actually works...
      Ed Nieves
      NCRS #51799

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      • Ron G.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1984
        • 865

        #4
        Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

        I have said it before and I will say it again. Pre-Lube 6 is in my opinion the best rust preventitive product on the market. You can either purchase it at Quanta or a company called Grinard. Their contact number is (973) 412 - 8900. It is less costly from the latter source. Wipe it on and wipe off the excess and know one will know that it is on the bare metal parts. Period!
        "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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        • Bill L.
          Expired
          • February 1, 2004
          • 1403

          #5
          Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

          Originally posted by Ron Goduti (8076)
          I have said it before and I will say it again. Pre-Lube 6 is in my opinion the best rust preventitive product on the market. You can either purchase it at Quanta or a company called Grinard. Their contact number is (973) 412 - 8900. It is less costly from the latter source. Wipe it on and wipe off the excess and know one will know that it is on the bare metal parts. Period!
          Hi Ron,

          Does that hold true for the cast parts like the differential?

          Thanks,

          Bill

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          • Ron G.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1984
            • 865

            #6
            Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

            Bill,

            It holds true for any bare metal part whether it is flat stock or cast such as the rear end. For exhaust manifolds and exhaust pipes, I recommend Pre-Lube 19 as it possesses properties in regard to not rolling off at high tempatures. Most folks do not know that Pre-Lube 19 exist. Call me sometime and I can discuss this matter with you in further detail. I believe you have my reach number. If not, send me an email.

            - Ron
            "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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            • Daniel H.
              Frequent User
              • September 1, 2011
              • 38

              #7
              Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

              Well by reading the responses so far I guess no one has tried this product. The test results with the salt spray looks pretty impressive. Ron, do pre-lube 6 provide any test results? I would be curious how they compare. This product seems to be pretty new and I like the idea that it is not waxy or oily which will attract dirt. How long will Pre-lube work before it needs to be reapplied if so? Does it dry so dirt will not stick to it as RPM claims? Evapo Rust Block claims it blocks rust but, only last six months according the tech sheet. I would like to have something that last a little longer.

              Danny

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              • Ron G.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1984
                • 865

                #8
                Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                Danny,

                A couple of things. First, Pre-Lube 6 is not new and has been around for quite sometime. Second, it is the only rust preventitive that meets the requirement specs of the U.S. Navy. In regard to how many times you will need to apply it depends on how you store your vehicle. One of my cars resides in a separate garage (or room if you will) at a constant 78 degrees in a cocoon in total darkness. I personally apply it twice per year and that is because I am a little anal. Trust me give it a shot.

                - Ron
                "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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                • Daniel H.
                  Frequent User
                  • September 1, 2011
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                  Ron, I know Pre-lube is not new. RPM is and I am trying to find out if it has any or new advandage in protecting bare steel from people that might have used it. From the test results performed in the salt spray it seem to work pretty well but the real proof that it works would be people that have used it as you did with pre-lube. I would be interested on what they have to say if they used RPM. Yes Pre-lube works but does RPM work too as they claim it does is what I am trying to find out.

                  Danny

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                  • William F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 9, 2009
                    • 1363

                    #10
                    Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                    Does Pre Lube (kinda sounds like some kind of "personal product") leave any kind of film that will attract/hold dirt on a car that is driven?

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                    • Gary R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1989
                      • 1796

                      #11
                      Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                      I would be interested in the RPM as well. Many times I have been requested not to paint parts for an NCRS build and this has posed some concern for long term treatment of the bare iron.

                      Ron it sounds like you have had success with the PRE-Lube 6 but when I tested it found it stayed wet a long time. I contacted the manfacturer at the time and was told it was really an aircraft cable lube and was supposed to stay wet. Now I'm not saying it does not work because many here have used it but it wasn't what I thought and ended up using Fluid Film on the bare iron parts and was pleased with it. Basically soak the bare metal for 30 minutes then wipe it off, leaves a wax like feel but looks totally natural. I used it on Doug L's 64 diff and he is in humid FL. The last I heard from Doug was it still looked pretty good.

                      The test results posted by the indepandant lab on the RPM material sound impressive, we test parts in only a 5% salt solution but do so for 7+ days. If anyone does try it please post some results. The article was using a new iron drum but I wonder if an old part has to be blasted or wire wheeled to get it clean first?

                      For a non NCRS part, ie a street driven differential, I blast, etch, POR15 and top coat. It works out very well but it is a long process especially when waiting for the POR15 to setup enough to top coat it.

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                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15595

                        #12
                        Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                        I use PRElube 6 extensively on my daily drivers and in a more limited way on the 1970. This is my experience:
                        On the DD (all tin) I spray the underside and door interior through the drain holes every Fall. I get enough into the body and frame access points that the car drips (and smells) for several days following application. The product stays wet for a month or two (depending on temperature and weather conditions), but the DDs have extensive mileage in some of the worst salt environments imaginable. It does attract dirt in daily driving, and the wet look would be problematic in a judging situation. PRE lube 6 will damage the weather strip (it curls up and loses density), so one needs to be careful of that as well. I suspect it is petroleum products in it that causes this effect.

                        On the 1970 I applied it with a foam brush to the metal frame, suspension and underbody brackets. I did not feel comfortable using it on the fiberglass, and so took pains to keep it off that. I did this several months before judging to allow the product to flash off (the weather was warmer than the situation with the DD). It turned the rust on the components a dark brown/black color and unless the car is on a lift helps to disguise the rust. Of course a bright sunny day on untrimmed (I'll bet the nannies kill that word) grass also helps. I believe it has the effect of inhibiting the advancement of rust, but I have no proof of this (except the DDs keep chugging along with minimal rust). If I had a lift I would apply it to the 1970 every couple of years, but that is just one of those woulda, coulda, shoulda things. On the garaged and tailored 1970 there is no evident dirt accumulation due to the PRE lube 6, and once it flashes off I doubt there would be any need for concern about it.

                        Of course to do this you have to get the PRE lube 6 in bulk, and that is a whole other story.
                        Terry

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                        • Daniel H.
                          Frequent User
                          • September 1, 2011
                          • 38

                          #13
                          Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                          Thanks Guys! Hi Gary! Nice to see you at Carlisle. I know Pre-lube works but will this stuff work too. I can't find anyone who has used it though. My Classic car has a YouTube supporting it. I guess the main thing is how long will it last is what i'm looking for. Test results are pretty harsh that they put it through and it still stayed protected . Might just get some and do my own testing.

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15595

                            #14
                            Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                            Originally posted by Daniel Hicswa (53760)
                            Thanks Guys! Hi Gary! Nice to see you at Carlisle. I know Pre-lube works but will this stuff work too. I can't find anyone who has used it though. My Classic car has a YouTube supporting it. I guess the main thing is how long will it last is what i'm looking for. Test results are pretty harsh that they put it through and it still stayed protected . Might just get some and do my own testing.
                            Keep us posted. I am sure many want to know.
                            Terry

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                            • Steven B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 30, 1982
                              • 3985

                              #15
                              Re: Rust preventive Magic (RPM)

                              Gibbs Brand has long been used in the aircraft industry and is also used to coat and protect magnesium wheels. Search previous posts.

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