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  • Paul S.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 1982
    • 354

    1963 muffler black out

    I always use black out on mufflers (mid year and up) but i know there are some wierd stuff on 63's. Car is an early car. Do i still spray black out on the bottom of the muffler ?
  • Michael G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 1997
    • 1251

    #2
    Re: 1963 muffler black out

    I did on mine. Nothing was noted during judging.

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    • Michael G.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • November 12, 2008
      • 2157

      #3
      Re: 1963 muffler black out

      I was in judging seminar 3-4 years ago at Kissimmee. The subject was a 63 340 HP Duntov car. The mufflers and pipes looked like someone had smeared a blank substance on them. I have a pic somewhere, but I'll have to find it, so, let me know if you want to see it.
      Last edited by Michael G.; January 12, 2013, 08:12 PM.
      Mike




      1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
      1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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      • Paul Y.
        Very Frequent User
        • September 30, 1982
        • 570

        #4
        Re: 1963 muffler black out

        Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
        I was in judging seminar 3-4 years ago at Kissimmee. The subject was a 63 340 HP Duntov car. The mufflers and pipes looked like someone had smeared a blank substance on them. I have a pic somewhere, but I'll have to find it, so, let me know if you want to see it.
        Mike, I would love to see it please. Paul
        It's a good life!














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        • Tim S.
          Very Frequent User
          • May 31, 1990
          • 704

          #5
          Re: 1963 muffler black out

          Meeee tooooo!

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          • Michael G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 12, 2008
            • 2157

            #6
            Re: 1963 muffler black out

            Here's two, let me know if you recognize your head


            DSC_0149.jpg:

            DSC_0147.jpg
            Mike




            1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
            1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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            • Edward J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 15, 2008
              • 6942

              #7
              Re: 1963 muffler black out

              Mike, I know you have been at he national level with your 63, What do the judges looks for as far as the blackout? It appears the system on the duntov 63 has a replacement system. Was there really blackout on the pipes that far up? I did the blackout on just the lower muffler and rear of the muffler on my 63.
              New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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              • Michael G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 12, 2008
                • 2157

                #8
                Re: 1963 muffler black out

                Actually, Ed, my car didn't have blackout during its last Duntov (1991), so when I restored it, I considered putting it on, but opted not to do it for regional or national judging. I didn't lose any points for exhaust, but I'm interested to hear from some judges as to whether it should be there for Duntov judging next Summer.
                Mike




                1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1976
                  • 4550

                  #9
                  Re: 1963 muffler black out

                  Surely you must be posting those pictures as the way NOT to restore your Corvette! Those are pictures of a stainless steel exhaust system including the mufflers!
                  I get it now! Your making a joke, right?

                  JR

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                  • Michael G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 12, 2008
                    • 2157

                    #10
                    Re: 1963 muffler black out

                    Joe,

                    I was just showing one example of blackout, I said absolutely nothing about the material or construction of the pipes and mufflers, only that they were blacked out.

                    If your "joke" comment is meant to imply that I don't know what this picture shows, note this: I was not asked, nor was it my intention, to generally critique the guy's car, I had one particular subject in mind and I specified it clearly.

                    Thanks, and have a nice day,
                    Mike




                    1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                    1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                    • Paul J.
                      Expired
                      • September 9, 2008
                      • 2091

                      #11
                      Re: 1963 muffler black out

                      Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
                      Here's two, let me know if you recognize your head


                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]44010[/ATTACH]:

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]44009[/ATTACH]
                      It looks like whoever did the blackout on the pipes was following the "mitting" process described in Noland Adams' book.

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11643

                        #12
                        Re: 1963 muffler black out

                        I'd suggest that the blackout in the photos isn't correct for a 63.

                        Generally in 63 they tried to back out everything shiny. The color should then be on all surfaces of the pipes and mufflers, not the bottom.
                        If anything, imagine painting blackout from the top of the chassis as it runs down the line. You might bend over to paint it, but it didn't get painted straight on from below.
                        It would run down from above, and you'd see drips that follow gravity.
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Michael G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • November 12, 2008
                          • 2157

                          #13
                          Re: 1963 muffler black out

                          Paul, Noland's book has several pictures of pipes with the blackout. On page 73, he refers to the "dark preservative", with a pic of a November, 62 car. It seems to extend all the way to the bend near the exhaust manifold. It does have the "drips" that you refer to Patrick.
                          Mike




                          1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                          1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                          • Alan D.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • January 1, 2005
                            • 2038

                            #14
                            Re: 1963 muffler black out

                            Here is an example of a 64 from Motor Trend, note the date of picture! (sorry forgot who originally posted)
                            So this is the real deal. Notice the 1/2 shaft blackout!
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                            • Michael G.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 1, 1997
                              • 1251

                              #15
                              Re: 1963 muffler black out

                              Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
                              Here is an example of a 64 from Motor Trend, note the date of picture! (sorry forgot who originally posted)
                              So this is the real deal. Notice the 1/2 shaft blackout!

                              Holy smokes....believe I see 'some' black out on the underside of the rear spring.

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