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  • Larry T.
    Expired
    • May 15, 2007
    • 404

    1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

    I know there are some "fake" or restamp starters out there. Here is one that is from ebay at a pretty good price it seems. Please give an opinion on the originality for the vintage it is stamped.

    Thanks.
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  • Ray G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1986
    • 1189

    #2
    Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

    Hello Larry;
    If you search the internet, there are several images of 1107365 starters. Thinking here is by comparing the many available images it will become clear which are typical original stamps.
    my .02
    And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
    I hope you dance


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    • Terry M.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • September 30, 1980
      • 15599

      #3
      Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

      Originally posted by Larry Tape (47364)
      I know there are some "fake" or restamp starters out there. Here is one that is from ebay at a pretty good price it seems. Please give an opinion on the originality for the vintage it is stamped.

      Thanks.
      Larry,
      That close up image by itself is not sufficient to make a judgment. The usual process in removing the previous stamp is to reduce the outside diameter of the case by turning in a lathe. This will leave the screws attaching the pole pieces proud of the surface, so you need to see that area to aid in your judgment. If this is a sale on eBay I would be suspicious if no image of the rest of the starter is presented.
      Terry

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      • Patrick N.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 10, 2008
        • 954

        #4
        Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

        Are you looking at the one from a1truck? you should see pics of the screws as such

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        • Patrick N.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 10, 2008
          • 954

          #5
          Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

          PS: I think this is the one you are looking at, if so, the pic of the screws is hard to tell. tionable.

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15599

            #6
            Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

            One other thing that can be done: BOP (Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac) starters mount on the driver's side of the engine. Thus when these starters are installed on a Chevrolet they present a virgin surface to the observer. So this previously unused surface can be roll stamped as one desires and the previous stamp is against the engine where it can not be seen when the starter is installed.

            I have seen factory starters that are painted black and some unpainted, but never one that had the stamp masked and the remainder of the starter painted. Of course if that is all that is wrong, it can easily be corrected, perhaps at the expense of too much paint -- but that too can be corrected.

            Of course all of my comments (even those about numbers) relate to appearance issues. One might be more properly concerned with functionality. What is really inside the starter, and will it give reliable service into the future.
            Terry

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            • David L.
              Expired
              • July 31, 1980
              • 3310

              #7
              Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

              Shouldn't the cast iron starter housing on a 1107365 starter look like the one in my photos below. The starter shown in Terry's photo uses 2 offset starter bolts but the the entire surface is machined in a somewhat triangular shape instead of machined on two separate smaller areas as shown in my photo #1.

              I did some research on the housings (Gr. 2.085 in my vintage Chev. parts catalogs and Chev. Parts History catalogs).
              1935825 to 1964504 in May 1964 to 1965721 in July 1969 to 1969309 in October 1969.

              The 1965721 housing is listed in my 1966 Chev. Parts Catalog (Oct. 1965) for 65-66 PASS. (396,427) and 66 Corvette (427)(exc. Sp. H/Per.) w/1107365 starter.

              I have also seen another cast iron housing with provisions for 3 starters bolts which could be used with 2 offset starter bolts or with 2 direct opposite starter bolts. I assume this "multipurpose" housing was a only a service part but maybe not.

              BTW, does anyone know the meaning on the "611" casting number as shown in my photo #3? Is it a molding number or could it be a casting date, possibly 61st day of 1971???
              I have seen original 1970 Camaro Z28 starters with the following housing casting numbers:
              "1108418 0E15 4" w/ "720" housing casting number.
              "1108418 0E22 3" w/ "680" housing casting number.

              Dave
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              Last edited by David L.; January 4, 2013, 10:25 PM.

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              • David L.
                Expired
                • July 31, 1980
                • 3310

                #8
                Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

                Patrick,

                While doing some research for another NCRS member I checked my notebooks and realized that I actually did still owned a starter stamped "1107365" starter, dated "8 B 14", and with a solenoid stamped "1114356" (service solenoid???). There is a "750" casting number on the cast iron nose. I bought the starter at a swap meet back in the 1980's and it appears to be an original but maybe not. The pole shoe screws are the phillips type. I believe that they should be the slotted type and therefore it's probably a rebuilt starter.

                The number "3" in the 1107365" part number is slightly smaller just like the photo of a 1107365 starter in your post.

                Dave

                Last edited by David L.; March 8, 2013, 07:00 PM.

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                • Daniel S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 14, 2011
                  • 307

                  #9
                  Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

                  Larry, clean out your PM box. I can offer help.

                  Thanks,
                  Dan

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                  • Patrick N.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 10, 2008
                    • 954

                    #10
                    Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

                    Any thoughts on the "750" / "611" casting on the nose?

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                    • Larry T.
                      Expired
                      • May 15, 2007
                      • 404

                      #11
                      Re: 1107365 Starter - Does this look good?

                      Thanks Dan. I should have space now.

                      Larry
                      Originally posted by Daniel Schutzbank (52694)
                      Larry, clean out your PM box. I can offer help.

                      Thanks,
                      Dan

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