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  • Dale C.
    Expired
    • November 1, 1999
    • 844

    68 bb

    Would you recommend this car to a friend? http://www.mcecars.com/viewInventory.cfm?invID=401 The thing that got my attention was the broach marks. Do they look OK? They look rather deep and continuious, is that OK????? Car looks nice and correct with build sheet. Any thing else comes to mind looking at this car? Hope pictures come though on site listing above.
    Dale
  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 11642

    #2
    Re: 68 bb

    Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
    Would you recommend this car to a friend? http://www.mcecars.com/viewInventory.cfm?invID=401
    No.

    The thing that got my attention was the broach marks. Do they look OK?
    Yes.

    They look rather deep and continuous, is that OK????? Car looks nice and correct with build sheet. Any thing else comes to mind looking at this car? Hope pictures come though on site listing above.
    Dale
    It's several thousand dollars overpriced.
    Nice red paint but lacking in details. Way too much black spray paint hiding things.
    There are better cars for the money.

    That's my short answer.
    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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    • Mike M.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1974
      • 8381

      #3
      Re: 68 bb

      i dislike the broach marks.mike

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43211

        #4
        Re: 68 bb

        Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
        Would you recommend this car to a friend? http://www.mcecars.com/viewInventory.cfm?invID=401 The thing that got my attention was the broach marks. Do they look OK? They look rather deep and continuious, is that OK????? Car looks nice and correct with build sheet. Any thing else comes to mind looking at this car? Hope pictures come though on site listing above.
        Dale

        Dale------

        It's got 1969 grilles and one slightly droopy headlight. This might indicate some previous front end damage and repair.

        The AIR system has been removed

        The master cylinder looks to be a replacement, non-GM piece.

        The tank sticker looks a little suspicious to me. I just don't see a reason for the "rust stains" as they appear.

        The engine stamp pad broach marks look too "prominent" to me. To me, they look rough enough that the head gaskets might not seal properly (the stamp pad is just an extension of the block deck surface).
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Ronald L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • October 18, 2009
          • 3248

          #5
          Re: 68 bb

          Joe, fiberglass rusts you know that right? More like artificial acid aging.

          On the VIN, I'd like to see the one-piece punch holder that punched some of the letters in at a 20 degree angle and others were a direct hit.

          The 'rusting' real or accelerated on the pad is also a little odd, some areas it looks like the broach lines go over that area, mostly noted where the VIN is and that stamp has metal deformation that is not clear in the Tonawanda stamp, could it have been a partial swipe to put a new VIN on the pad, but leave the Engine date?

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11642

            #6
            Re: 68 bb

            I noticed that each of the broach marks is parallel, which is quite unusual for a replacement stamping if that's what it is. In addition, I do see displaced metal from both stamps though it is more prominent at the VIN than at the engine stamping.
            What would be interesting is to measure the total length of the stampings - the VIN stamping looks, if anything, like the characters are a bit too far apart.

            In the end I found many more things obviously wrong than the broach marks, and that's why I'd turn down the car.
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Dale C.
              Expired
              • November 1, 1999
              • 844

              #7
              Re: 68 bb

              Thanks to all, great insight.
              Dale

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              • Paul J.
                Expired
                • September 9, 2008
                • 2091

                #8
                Re: 68 bb

                Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                It's several thousand dollars overpriced.
                Nice red paint but lacking in details. Way too much black spray paint hiding things.
                There are better cars for the money.

                That's my short answer.
                Exactly. In addition, the overall condition is average, especially the interior.

                Paul

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: 68 bb

                  Run Forrest, run Everyone has missed the fact that it was originally a yellow car trim code 984, even shows on the tank sticker
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11642

                    #10
                    Re: 68 bb

                    Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                    Run Forrest, run Everyone has missed the fact that it was originally a yellow car trim code 984, even shows on the tank sticker
                    I saw the yellow overspray on the wells behind the seats.
                    No one wants a yellow car anyway, right?
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: 68 bb

                      Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                      I saw the yellow overspray on the wells behind the seats.
                      No one wants a yellow car anyway, right?
                      Sorta like a Kermit car? The yellow used in 1968 was a pleasing color to me. Not too bright or gaudy unlike a couple of the later school buses disguised as a Corvette
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11642

                        #12
                        Re: 68 bb

                        Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                        ot too bright or gaudy unlike a couple of the later school buses disguised as a Corvette
                        Hey, my car resembles that remark.
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Ronald L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • October 18, 2009
                          • 3248

                          #13
                          Re: 68 bb

                          On the topic of broach marks, yes too straight for the rookie stamp shop where the hand motion gets a little loop in the lines usually seen better with the head removed. However, I bet there are some experts out there that have that all figured out, hey they might even be here reading this thread.

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11642

                            #14
                            Re: 68 bb

                            I don't doubt that at all.
                            However, would you pay the big dollar to have the motor restamped this well and then screw up the rest of the "restoration" in so many ways?
                            It doesn't make sense to me.

                            A "Fonawanda" stamp or an 80 grit sandpaper pad would fit this car perfectly.
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Ronald L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • October 18, 2009
                              • 3248

                              #15
                              Re: 68 bb

                              The sources I know of only get $300 to do it like this one. pocket change with respect to the total cost of the motor and other like paint. That paint job had to be more than 3k, at least 1k in paint alone, it cost 300 to paint a hood between primer, reducers, catalysts, and 1k color and there wasn't a drop of paint left over.

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