63 Glove box

[Michael G.]

This has been discussed here before, but the the photos are now gone from the archives, so could several owners of original early 63 (pre-January 62) cars please post pics of the glove box lock and bezel? It would be nice to get some of the light switch too.

Thanks,

[Harry S.]

Re: 63 Glove box

This has been discussed here before, but the the photos are now gone from the archives, so could several owners of original early 63 (pre-January 62) cars please post pics of the glove box lock and bezel? It would be nice to get some of the light switch too.

Thanks,

Mike, I will look for some pictures but here is an explanation of the bezel and lock. Essentially there is no bezel. The lock is exactly the same as 64 to 67 locks. Also, if you replace your door with a trim parts door, the lock will not fit. Trim parts only makes the repro 63 doors to fit the lock and bezel combination.

Saying that, I believe that anytime during the 63 model year you could end up with the early style. My April car had no bezel on the lock. I had the early style door and lock. I had to upgrade to lock/bezel when I received the trim parts door.

The light switch has many fingers/prongs to hold it into place. It was the same switch as the 59 to 63 passenger cars as I recall.

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Glove box

Harry, I'm just looking to put some documentation together showing that the keyhole-style lock, as well as the absence of a shield, and the the tubular light bulb, were typical of the original parts used on early 63s, such as my 3922 car. I think that those facts were pretty much established the last time this was discussed here, but when I went back to get a few pics as documentation, the pics had been deleted. It'd be nice to have those pics at judging to avoid the four point deduction I got last time.
Thanks

[Harry S.]

Re: 63 Glove box

Mike, Switch and Door with non-bezel.

[Edward J.]

Re: 63 Glove box

[QUOTE=Harry Sadlock (38513);641962]Mike, I will look for some pictures but here is an explanation of the bezel and lock. Essentially there is no bezel. The lock is exactly the same as 64 to 67 locks. Also, if you replace your door with a trim parts door, the lock will not fit. Trim parts only makes the repro 63 doors to fit the lock and bezel combination.

Saying that, I believe that anytime during the 63 model year you could end up with the early style. My April car had no bezel on the lock. I had the early style door and lock. I had to upgrade to lock/bezel when I received the trim parts door.


Harry, this is a good topic on the doors for 63, My early car has a round bezel around the lock cylinder, and the later 63 cars does have the 64-67 style. I am not sure when the date of change was,And the glove box light light was a interesting change, The earlier cars did not have the sheild because it used the round light bulb, As the later cars had the shield and used the a longer style tubular bulb.

[Michael G.]

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Ed, in the earlier thread it was concluded that the round bezel came in sometime around January and lasted through the rest of 63.In that thread, Michael Hanson wrote:

"Harry is correct. From start of 63 production, the IP door lock would use the small key hole shaped bezel, just like 64-67. About 3 or 4 months into production, just about everything was changed including the lock assy and bezel, lock retainer and the door itself.The 2nd design lock used a large round stainless bezel. The 2nd design retainer was chrome and if I remember correctly, the 2nd design lock case became chrome also."

It would be unusual for an early car such as yours to have a round bezel. If you look on page 113 of Noland's book it shows an air conditioned dash with the round bezel, (to have AC, it had to be built after January), so it seems the change to the round bezel was later in the year. I've inspected a lot of very low-mileage original early cars at meets over the last year and all had the keyhole shape.

If Michael H. is on line, he may want to comment here....

Thanks,

[Edward J.]

Re: 63 Glove box

Ed, in the earlier thread it was concluded that the round bezel came in sometime around January and lasted through the rest of 63.In that thread, Michael Hanson wrote:

"Harry is correct. From start of 63 production, the IP door lock would use the small key hole shaped bezel, just like 64-67. About 3 or 4 months into production, just about everything was changed including the lock assy and bezel, lock retainer and the door itself.The 2nd design lock used a large round stainless bezel. The 2nd design retainer was chrome and if I remember correctly, the 2nd design lock case became chrome also."

It would be unusual for an early car such as yours to have a round bezel. If you look on page 113 of Noland's book it shows an air conditioned dash with the round bezel, (to have AC, it had to be built after January), so it seems the change to the round bezel was later in the year. I've inspected a lot of very low-mileage original early cars at meets over the last year and all had the keyhole shape.

If Michael H. is on line, he may want to comment here....

Thanks,

Mike, I am saying my car is early, but by some of the 63 standards it is not. may car is a March car. And does have the round bezel. I thought the the later 63,s had the 64-67 bezel.

[Harry S.]

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Mike, I am saying my car is early, but by some of the 63 standards it is not. may car is a March car. And does have the round bezel. I thought the the later 63,s had the 64-67 bezel.

Ed, the picture I posted is from my April car, no bezel. I guess that door and lock were misplaced on the line somewhere and finally installed in April.

[Michael G.]

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Thanks for clarifyng that Ed.

Based on the cars I've seen, it seems that changes could be introduced, then go away, then come back, etc.

It seems that "First-in-first-out" inventory control was not necessarily the norm at St Louis. If someone found a pallet of early doors in April, May, or June, it was probably used.