Non disqualification vin tag... part 2

**Michael J.** · October 16, 2012, 11:20 AM

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I would say you are very lucky to live in California if they have no way of checking a VIN or title back 12 years and only need a VIN number to get a new title. This would not happen in New Mexico.

**Domenic T.** · October 16, 2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)

I would say you are very lucky to live in California if they have no way of checking a VIN or title back 12 years and only need a VIN number to get a new title. This would not happen in New Mexico.

Michael,
Not quite lucky, about all that is good here is the WX. I tried to scrap a car that I owned and had title to and could not do so untill I re-registered it with a scrap title. The fees were more than the price I got at the scrap yard, can you believe that? I had to go to DMV and get paper work (certificate of junk) and register my own car again under a junk title so they could remove it from their records?

I think that not being able to find the previous owners of our cars after a certain time period is the first clue that some DMV records are poor. Maybe it was the lack of computers back then that made record keeping so bad.

I bought a trailor with a damaged boat on it and only wanted to register the trailor so I could drive it home. DMV here made me go back and get the paperwork and pay registration on the junk boat.

Most DMV people see that at our ages these cars are owned by responsible people and most are honest.

DOM

**Michael J.** · October 16, 2012, 01:41 PM

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I'm sure you have many challenges with your DMV (we have MVD), especially over "environmental" issues, like junking a car. That is easy here, no problems at all, many of our citizens just dump them in the arroyos or in their grandparents front yards....

, and since the scrap yards deal in stolen electrical wiring all the time, very few questions are asked....

But seriously, I feel like a criminal every time I set foot in the MVD here. First of all, it is hugely crowded, as NM gives regular citizen drivers licenses to undocumented aliens. Usually dozen there waiting in line. Then the clerks behind the counter (usually 20 somethings) have a very nasty attitude and you go through an inquisition to get your title and registration for out of state cars. It took me three trips after I bought a California car ('56 T-Bird) from a Malibu dealer. The clerk would not accept the Bill of Sale as valid. I finally had to have the dealer send me a blank signed one so I could fill it out the exact way they wanted it.

My favorite story is the time I registered and tilted my latest toy. I presented the paperwork, including the vital State Police VIN inspection report, all 8 pages, to the clerk. She looked it over disapprovingly with a sneer on her face, and then asked, "What model of car is this?" I said, a Barracuda. Her eyes glazed over, and she asked "Who makes a Barracuda?". I said, Plymouth, then her eyes really glazed over (she is a 20 something), and then said, "This must be a really old car, never heard of any of this".

**Terry M.** · October 16, 2012, 02:18 PM

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Everyone has a horror story, although mine is not too bad as they go:
I have owned a 1967 Chevelle for about 30 years. I bought it from the original owner and titled it when I bought it. The rebuilding (I won't call it a restoration, because it isn't) was pretty much complete this year, and I wanted to get antique tags for it. The SoS (Secretary of State in Illinois) offices in the 'burbs don't deal in tags -- only drivers license and state ID -- so I had to go to one of the big offices in the city. The neighborhood is -- well scary is the best word I can come up with, although I used to work within walking distance of the SoS office and lived not too far from that either. I was concerned they would want money for the 30 years I had it in the garage without tags. First person I went to said I had an old title and then wanted to talk about old cars, so I obliged. He filled out some paperwork and sent me to a clerk who reviewed the paperwork for accuracy (a 20 something). She asked who made this car. Chevrolet. Really?? She then sent me to the cashier. The cashier didn't like the title number on the paperwork and crossed out what the first guy had written and put in another set of numbers. She also commented on how old the title was. She had never seen one that old. She did take my money and I ran out the door with tags in hand. Easy-peasy compared to your stories. You think someone will be able to follow that paper trail with the crossed out numbers? I doubt it, but I don't care -- they didn't want their money for the missing 30 years and I was happy.

I couldn't help but wonder what they will do with the title for the 1937 Cadillac that has been in the garage for 50 years. I will bet they have never seen a title like that one -- but I thank God I didn't leave either of them on open titles. Oh, and if they want a VIN verification I am in trouble. It is registered by the motor number -- there is no VIN as we know it. You think I can explain that to a cop?

A friend had to re-title two cars, one of them in pieces, for another friend who had passed and they couldn't find the titles. That one is a horror story that I can't begin to give all the details of. The SoS wouldn't title one of them because it was in pieces. They had to find a friendly cop to do the VIN verification even though the car was in pieces -- and that drama is still going on last I heard.

**Ed H.** · October 17, 2012, 04:51 PM

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Wow!, Everyone has a story. Mine was my frame-off 57. At the local DMV (Ventura Ca.) I ran into the same long lines as our NM friend did. Nobody spoke english while I was in line. I monitored the interaction of the clerks and the applicants. I knew I was in trouble. I was talking to another fellow like myself who was a used car dealer. He recommended I drive the car to a small city DMV (Santa Paula, Ca.), and look for a tall blond woman who drives a 70 Red Vette.
As I drove into the SP lot I observed a very nice red C-3. When I entered, I noticed very little traffic in the waiting room. I found the owner of the red vette, and she was a knock out. I approached, as one would a beautiful woman, and asked I she could help me register a newly restored Corvette. Her first words were, did you bring it to their facility. I replied, it is in the parking lot. She said "if you give me a ride, for test purposes only, I will take care of everything, including, registering the car with Year Of Make plates (yellow/black letters), and the small red, year (57) sticker. She told her boss, she was going for a field test in a 57 Corvette. The Boss answered, "RIGHT". My baby was registered within an hour. All's well, when you have another corvette owner, who works for Ca.DMV, is 5Ft. 8, and built like a brick ---- -----. That's my srory, and I still have flash backs of that blond. To bad I don't have another project, it would be worth it just to go back.

On another tread, some day, I will relate the absolute horror story I had when trying to register the same car in Nevada, two years later.

**Terry M.** · October 17, 2012, 05:00 PM

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Ed, you raised a good point that I failed to mention.

Going to the office when they are not busy is, I believe, essential. If you go when they are busy they will find any excuse to shuffle you off. You need more papers, we can't do that because it is in pieces, we can't do that in this office, you have to go to BFE, and on and on.

Mid-week and mid-month is the best.

**Ed H.** · October 17, 2012, 07:21 PM

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Terry,
The same goes for the pride of workmanship we see coming out of Bolling Green. You don't want a C-1 to C-3 assembled on Mon. morning (weekend party) or Fri., getting to the weekend party, and between Nov. to Feb (football season). Then you have summers in Flint. I have been told they were very uncomfortable on the line. I don't think they had A/C in the plant. Of course I was too young to have first hand knowledge. This info from some folks I have met that worked in the plant.

**Terry M.** · October 17, 2012, 08:34 PM

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I was never to St Louis, but I too am told there was no AC in the plant, and the conditions were rather primative. Bowling Green is another matter, and the employees there are quite dedicated. The BG plant is air conditioned and very well lighted. They take safety very serious there. I doubt it matters which day your car was assembled in Bowling Green. I do understand they have some extra days off for hunting season though.

**Clem Z.** · October 17, 2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)

I was never to St Louis, but I too am told there was no AC in the plant, and the conditions were rather primative. Bowling Green is another matter, and the employees there are quite dedicated. The BG plant is air conditioned and very well lighted. They take safety very serious there. I doubt it matters which day your car was assembled in Bowling Green. I do understand they have some extra days off for hunting season though.

mrs clem and i toured the st louis corvette plant in 1965 when i picked up my 396 corvette and i thought the floor were dirt.

things are different down south in factories as when #1 son went to work in Va. he found out about flex time because the people on the production floor stayed home in the morning to tend to their tobacco patch and came into work about 10.

**Michael J.** · October 17, 2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ed Hoffman (33113)

Wow!, Everyone has a story. Mine was my frame-off 57. At the local DMV (Ventura Ca.) I ran into the same long lines as our NM friend did. Nobody spoke english while I was in line. I monitored the interaction of the clerks and the applicants. I knew I was in trouble. I was talking to another fellow like myself who was a used car dealer. He recommended I drive the car to a small city DMV (Santa Paula, Ca.), and look for a tall blond woman who drives a 70 Red Vette.As I drove into the SP lot I observed a very nice red C-3. When I entered, I noticed very little traffic in the waiting room. I found the owner of the red vette, and she was a knock out. I approached, as one would a beautiful woman, and asked I she could help me register a newly restored Corvette. Her first words were, did you bring it to their facility. I replied, it is in the parking lot. She said "if you give me a ride, for test purposes only, I will take care of everything, including, registering the car with Year Of Make plates (yellow/black letters), and the small red, year (57) sticker. She told her boss, she was going for a field test in a 57 Corvette. The Boss answered, "RIGHT". My baby was registered within an hour. All's well, when you have another corvette owner, who works for Ca.DMV, is 5Ft. 8, and built like a brick ---- -----. That's my srory, and I still have flash backs of that blond. To bad I don't have another project, it would be worth it just to go back.On another tread, some day, I will relate the absolute horror story I had when trying to register the same car in Nevada, two years later.

That's a great story, the only one near that here in this state was when I took my daughter's '64 1/2 Mustang convertible (playmate pink, with white pony interior) in for title and registration. The 20 something girl clerk loved it so much she could care less about the paperwork.....

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**Jaime G.** · October 17, 2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Ed Hoffman (33113)

Wow!, Everyone has a story. Mine was my frame-off 57. At the local DMV (Ventura Ca.) I ran into the same long lines as our NM friend did. Nobody spoke english while I was in line. I monitored the interaction of the clerks and the applicants. I knew I was in trouble. I was talking to another fellow like myself who was a used car dealer. He recommended I drive the car to a small city DMV (Santa Paula, Ca.), and look for a tall blond woman who drives a 70 Red Vette.
As I drove into the SP lot I observed a very nice red C-3. When I entered, I noticed very little traffic in the waiting room. I found the owner of the red vette, and she was a knock out. I approached, as one would a beautiful woman, and asked I she could help me register a newly restored Corvette. Her first words were, did you bring it to their facility. I replied, it is in the parking lot. She said "if you give me a ride, for test purposes only, I will take care of everything, including, registering the car with Year Of Make plates (yellow/black letters), and the small red, year (57) sticker. She told her boss, she was going for a field test in a 57 Corvette. The Boss answered, "RIGHT". My baby was registered within an hour. All's well, when you have another corvette owner, who works for Ca.DMV, is 5Ft. 8, and built like a brick ---- -----. That's my srory, and I still have flash backs of that blond. To bad I don't have another project, it would be worth it just to go back.

On another tread, some day, I will relate the absolute horror story I had when trying to register the same car in Nevada, two years later.

Ed, why must you tell everyone about Santa Paula DMV. It has been my secret for the last 3 years doing all my YOM plates for the cars. Oh Well, she will probably transfer now that everyone will come looking for her.
Regards,
Jaime

**Terry M.** · October 17, 2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jaime Gesundheit (12617)

Ed, why must you tell everyone about Santa Paula DMV. It has been my secret for the last 3 years doing all my YOM plates for the cars. Oh Well, she will probably transfer now that everyone will come looking for her.
Regards,
Jaime

What is it they post in the other forums? This post is worthless without a picture.

**Michael J.** · October 17, 2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)

What is it they post in the other forums? This post is worthless without a picture.

+1, I wanna see this babe!

**Ed H.** · October 18, 2012, 12:17 PM

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Mike, Terry, and Jaime,
I haven't been back to the bu--y house since 2002, when I reg. the car. I was so taken by her I forgot to get her name , I kept wiping the drool from my lips. Jaime, just go down there and look for the red 70. I could pull a picture off the internet and post it, but I am a man of integrity. I don't beleive I could locate a fine looking country girl like her except in the flesh (oops). I might travel to Ventura this Fri., I will pass through the DMV parking lot to see if the Corvette is there (stalking is againts the law in Ca.)

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