Re: Protecto plate
Easy guys. Let’s not start a urinating contest. This board is for people to learn from. It is not the only place, and I too get frustrated when the answers are in the books many of us volunteers work so hard to write, but in this day and age we have to seize the learning opportunities where they are. See – I took my meds today.
Some items we judge are assessed differently than others. The engine is one, and so is paint. Engine is a go, no go situation. Wrong casting number and as you mention you 350 points. Get the right number and wrong date and you lose 175. Right number and date (which are usually pretty easy if you are replacing the cylinder case anyway) and you lose 138 or less depending on pad situation.
Paint is different too. There is a matrix that flows down to 100% loss or credit (depending on where the matrix takes you) or 20% off or 50% off. Nothing in between. Some other items get different judging (windshield, tires & battery) because they are listed in the Standard Deduction section of the Judging Reference Manual. FWIW the windshield, tires and battery standard deductions have been different since the beginning of the matrix judging system (early 1980s if my memory is right). The goal of making these items different is to keep the deductions the same between classes; so that if a 1953 has the same issue as a 1993 the point deduction will be the same for each car.
Not to feed the anger, but these are some of the basic judging items that I try to teach in my Advanced Judging Seminars at Regional and National meets. I don’t always touch on all of these at each meet. It depends on the cars we have on hand and the desires of the attendees – and also my memory, and that of my wingmen at each event. Additionally there are Judging 101 classes at chapters across the country; but again they are not always each year and of course they may not be held at a location close to you. I would, however, encourage you to seek out a Chapter if there is one close to you and join in their judging schools. Some of them are not basic and may not work for you, but give them a try. Talking is a lot easier than keyboarding -- at least for me it is, but that may be my Irish heritage. Oh and if you think this is confusing; try it over the bar after a few cold frosty ones.
Easy guys. Let’s not start a urinating contest. This board is for people to learn from. It is not the only place, and I too get frustrated when the answers are in the books many of us volunteers work so hard to write, but in this day and age we have to seize the learning opportunities where they are. See – I took my meds today.
Some items we judge are assessed differently than others. The engine is one, and so is paint. Engine is a go, no go situation. Wrong casting number and as you mention you 350 points. Get the right number and wrong date and you lose 175. Right number and date (which are usually pretty easy if you are replacing the cylinder case anyway) and you lose 138 or less depending on pad situation.
Paint is different too. There is a matrix that flows down to 100% loss or credit (depending on where the matrix takes you) or 20% off or 50% off. Nothing in between. Some other items get different judging (windshield, tires & battery) because they are listed in the Standard Deduction section of the Judging Reference Manual. FWIW the windshield, tires and battery standard deductions have been different since the beginning of the matrix judging system (early 1980s if my memory is right). The goal of making these items different is to keep the deductions the same between classes; so that if a 1953 has the same issue as a 1993 the point deduction will be the same for each car.
Not to feed the anger, but these are some of the basic judging items that I try to teach in my Advanced Judging Seminars at Regional and National meets. I don’t always touch on all of these at each meet. It depends on the cars we have on hand and the desires of the attendees – and also my memory, and that of my wingmen at each event. Additionally there are Judging 101 classes at chapters across the country; but again they are not always each year and of course they may not be held at a location close to you. I would, however, encourage you to seek out a Chapter if there is one close to you and join in their judging schools. Some of them are not basic and may not work for you, but give them a try. Talking is a lot easier than keyboarding -- at least for me it is, but that may be my Irish heritage. Oh and if you think this is confusing; try it over the bar after a few cold frosty ones.
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