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  • Donald H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 2, 2009
    • 2580

    C1 Seat Belt Orientation

    Per the 58-60 TIM&JG, the AIM is incorrect for the positioning of the seat belts. The AIM shows the female Latch on the inboard side of the seat and it should be on the outboard. My question is regarding the hambone/seat belt bracket. In the AIM (picture attached), the hambone turns down on the inboard side (the female latch per the AIM) and the tip turns up on the outboard side (the male end).

    Is the orientation of the hambones correct in the AIM, or should they also be switched?

    Hope I made this clear

    Thanks,

    Don
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    Don Harris
    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)
  • John F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 23, 2008
    • 2404

    #2
    Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

    My 62 #0029 has the female latches near the center console. Not sure what you are trying to say.

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    • Doug F.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1983
      • 322

      #3
      Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

      for me it was always a choice between smashing them in the door jamb or smashing them against each other, no win time.

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      • Donald H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 2, 2009
        • 2580

        #4
        Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

        Originally posted by John Ftacek (48800)
        My 62 #0029 has the female latches near the center console. Not sure what you are trying to say.
        John, I'm talking about the brackets at the floor. I attached another photo with the hambones blown up more. If you notice the tip of one of the brackets with the blue arrows (in the case of my 60 AIM) the bracket/hambone on the female latch belts turns down. The bracket on the male belt turns up.

        I don't know if it matters or not, or if they need to be oriented this way for the belts to fit correctly.

        Seat Belts from AIM _3.jpg
        Don Harris
        Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
        Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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        • John F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 23, 2008
          • 2404

          #5
          Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

          Don, I only have one picture when I had the seats out. It shows the outboard belt on the passenger side.

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          • John F.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 23, 2008
            • 2404

            #6
            Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

            Forgot to post the pic. Sorry!
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            • Jim D.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 30, 1985
              • 2883

              #7
              Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

              Originally posted by Donald Harris (51003)
              Per the 58-60 TIM&JG, the AIM is incorrect for the positioning of the seat belts. The AIM shows the female Latch on the inboard side of the seat and it should be on the outboard.
              I believe the TIM&J is correct. What makes you think it is wrong?

              Originally posted by John Ftacek (48800)
              My 62 #0029 has the female latches near the center console. Not sure what you are trying to say.
              My 60 has the female latches on the inboard sides as well. I can't say it is 100% correct but that's the way it has been since the early 70's when I bought the car.

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              • Donald H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 2, 2009
                • 2580

                #8
                Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                Jim, I'm not commenting whether the TIM&JG is correct or not. But according to it, your female belt should be on the outboard side of the seat for 58 to60, not on the inboard side.

                Im trying to find out the correct orientation of the bracket on the floor where the belt mounts to the car
                Don Harris
                Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                • Donald H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • November 2, 2009
                  • 2580

                  #9
                  Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                  Originally posted by John Ftacek (48800)
                  Forgot to post the pic. Sorry!
                  John, yours shows the tip of the hambone turned up on the male belt which agrees wit the AIM. Don't suppose you have a similar picture of the female belt anchor?
                  Don Harris
                  Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                  Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                  • John F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • March 23, 2008
                    • 2404

                    #10
                    Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                    Don, I can't remember, since the carpet was covering it when I took the seats out to clean up behind them. The picture I have is hiding the mount. Here it is.
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                    • Russ S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 30, 1982
                      • 2162

                      #11
                      Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                      Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
                      I believe the TIM&J is correct. What makes you think it is wrong?


                      My 60 has the female latches on the inboard sides as well. I can't say it is 100% correct but that's the way it has been since the early 70's when I bought the car.

                      Jim, I believe what Don is saying is that the AIM is the one that is wrong not the TIM&J.
                      Last edited by Russ S.; July 20, 2012, 09:42 PM. Reason: spell

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                      • Jim D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 2883

                        #12
                        Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                        Originally posted by Russ Steinhaus (5540)
                        Jim, I believe what Don is saying is that the AIM is the one that is wrong not the TIM&J.
                        My mistake. In my opinion, the AIM is correct. My 60 has the female latches in the inboard position. The interior had never been touched, including the carpet, when I bought the car. Can't see any reason why somebody would have swapped them around.

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                        • Stephen R.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 20, 2008
                          • 302

                          #13
                          Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                          I don't know if the aim is correct or not but I set up the hambones as shown in the aim one side up, one down per seat.

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                          • Edward B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • January 1, 1988
                            • 537

                            #14
                            Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                            As I understand it, the female portion of the latch should be closest to the center of the car, the theory being that there would be less in the way to hinder a quick exit if such became necessary. As to whether the "hambone" should be up or down I haven't the slightest idea - it doesn't matter to me and I suspect it didn't matter to the person assembling the car at the factory so long as it fit together.

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                            • Chuck B.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • August 31, 1987
                              • 122

                              #15
                              Re: C1 Seat Belt Orientation

                              These are pictures of the interior my one owner 1960 that I purchased in 1989. It had been stored in an outbuilding in Fraser, CO since 1973. The female latches were in very poor condition probably from draging on the ground.
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