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  • Ronald D.
    Expired
    • March 11, 2012
    • 66

    Rear shock upper bolt question

    The upper rear shock bolts on my 1971 LT-1 came from the prior owner with hardware store bolts, so during the restoration I am correcting this and a few dozen other things. My question is what are the bolt, washer, and nut finishes?, My book on Chassis Restoration by Joseph Tripoli says there plated, I bought a set from Paragon, they are black bolts, plated lock washer, plated nut, so I now am wondering what is correct?,. maybe they did them both ways, I just don't know, thanks in advance, Ron
  • Alan S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1989
    • 3415

    #2
    Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

    Hi Ron,
    On my mid -January 71 the bolt and lock washer had a dark finish, I'm thinking manganese phosphate or black oxide. The thin nut had a bright finish, perhaps zinc or cad.
    Note that the lock washer is under the bolt's head, not under the nut.
    Regards,
    Alan

    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
    Mason Dixon Chapter
    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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    • Ronald D.
      Expired
      • March 11, 2012
      • 66

      #3
      Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

      Thanks for the detail, now I have it

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      • Gene M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1985
        • 4232

        #4
        Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

        Ron,
        Just as an aid in the future, the graded bolts (typical 5&8) are not electroplated. The cost is avoided by GM of heat treatment. Typical a Black/grey phosphate is used. There are exceptions but few.

        In your example the lock washer has me puzzled. As not typical of grade 2 application. I would expect to see natural or zinc finish. But such a minor thing who really cares.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43211

          #5
          Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

          Originally posted by RONALD DOUPE (54686)
          The upper rear shock bolts on my 1971 LT-1 came from the prior owner with hardware store bolts, so during the restoration I am correcting this and a few dozen other things. My question is what are the bolt, washer, and nut finishes?, My book on Chassis Restoration by Joseph Tripoli says there plated, I bought a set from Paragon, they are black bolts, plated lock washer, plated nut, so I now am wondering what is correct?,. maybe they did them both ways, I just don't know, thanks in advance, Ron
          Ron-----

          The bolt was definitely black or gray phosphate as others have mentioned. Also, this was a special bolt in that it had a relatively long unthreaded shank with respect to the overall length of the bolt and the threaded length was relatively short.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Paul O.
            Frequent User
            • August 31, 1990
            • 1716

            #6
            Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

            The bolt finish what is typical seen but the nut and washer are typical a silver finish.

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            • Rick M.
              Expired
              • July 31, 1982
              • 39

              #7
              Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

              Ron:
              Also make sure you install them with the nut toward the inside, bolt head and washer to the outside. Otherwise once the body is lowered on the frame you won't be able to remove the bolt without cutting off the head.

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              • Ronald D.
                Expired
                • March 11, 2012
                • 66

                #8
                Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

                I have them that way, my only wrong part is the lock washer is plated, so I am going to back off the nut, tap the bolt out 1/4 inch, make the washer look black like the bolt, and re install, thanks for all the details, it helps a lot, Ron .
                Originally posted by Rick Montgomery (5882)
                Ron:
                Also make sure you install them with the nut toward the inside, bolt head and washer to the outside. Otherwise once the body is lowered on the frame you won't be able to remove the bolt without cutting off the head.

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                • Russ S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 30, 1982
                  • 2162

                  #9
                  Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

                  Originally posted by RONALD DOUPE (54686)
                  I have them that way, my only wrong part is the lock washer is plated, so I am going to back off the nut, tap the bolt out 1/4 inch, make the washer look black like the bolt, and re install, thanks for all the details, it helps a lot, Ron .
                  I think that the lock washer should be plated. I believe that is also what a couple of the others also felt.

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                  • Alan S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1989
                    • 3415

                    #10
                    Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

                    Hi Ron,
                    I agree that you may want to follow Paul and Russ' thoughts about the washer's finish.
                    Paul has certainly looked at more shock washers than I have.
                    Regards,
                    Alan
                    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                    Mason Dixon Chapter
                    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                    • Ronald D.
                      Expired
                      • March 11, 2012
                      • 66

                      #11
                      Re: Rear shock upper bolt question

                      Good, now I don't have to do anything more, plated washer will stay, thanks again

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