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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7118

    Roy at BJ

    Interesting to see Roy verifying matching numbers on an engine, as announced by the dark glasses BJ guy, and bidding on that same car, also announced by the BJ guy as the person who has his hand up knows more than anyone about Corvettes. Heck, I threw in a phone bid, he must know something about a '67 390 HP that was converted to a tri-power. But actually, I liked the tan on tan '63 SWC fuelie, that's more my kind of car now and a good price even if 2nd Flight. Roy lost the bid, guess he didn't want it that much.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico
  • Philip P.
    Expired
    • February 28, 2011
    • 558

    #2
    Re: Roy at BJ

    They also said it was an original car with "one" repaint.

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7118

      #3
      Re: Roy at BJ

      Originally posted by Philip Porter (53007)
      They also said it was an original car with "one" repaint.
      True, and when it got to $87K, they said it was worth twice that! But it really was at $77K at the time, they got ahead of themselves on the bidding. BJ was seriously hyping that car, why I don't know.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Clem Z.
        Expired
        • January 1, 2006
        • 9427

        #4
        Re: Roy at BJ

        Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
        True, and when it got to $87K, they said it was worth twice that! But it really was at $77K at the time, they got ahead of themselves on the bidding. BJ was seriously hyping that car, why I don't know.
        don't they get paid a % of how much it sells for ???

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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7118

          #5
          Re: Roy at BJ

          Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
          don't they get paid a % of how much it sells for ???
          Sure, I think like 8% from the seller and 8% from the buyer. But they get paid that on all cars, this one they stopped the bidding near the end imploring people to raise the bid, talking about the matching numbers, talking about the NCRS inspector bidding, how the bid was 1/2 what it was worth, etc. I had not seen them take that much time and effort on any others I saw yesterday. Could be there was a hidden reserve they wouldn't tell about.
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Clem Z.
            Expired
            • January 1, 2006
            • 9427

            #6
            Re: Roy at BJ

            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
            Sure, I think like 8% from the seller and 8% from the buyer. But they get paid that on all cars, this one they stopped the bidding near the end imploring people to raise the bid, talking about the matching numbers, talking about the NCRS inspector bidding, how the bid was 1/2 what it was worth, etc. I had not seen them take that much time and effort on any others I saw yesterday. Could be there was a hidden reserve they wouldn't tell about.
            was not there some law suits about the short hammering of some cars so their buds would not have to pay too much ??? what happened there ???

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            • William F.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • June 9, 2009
              • 1363

              #7
              Re: Roy at BJ

              Roy who? Didn't watch the auction.

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              • Michael W.
                Expired
                • April 1, 1997
                • 4290

                #8
                Re: Roy at BJ

                Roy Braatz I'm guessing.

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                • Michael J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 27, 2009
                  • 7118

                  #9
                  Re: Roy at BJ

                  Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                  Roy who? Didn't watch the auction.
                  Here's the car listing, and the inspector's (and early bidder's) name there. Remember the announcer said this Roy "Knows more about Corvettes than anyone in the world".

                  Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                  • Dick W.
                    Former NCRS Director Region IV
                    • June 30, 1985
                    • 10483

                    #10
                    Re: Roy at BJ

                    Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                    was not there some law suits about the short hammering of some cars so their buds would not have to pay too much ??? what happened there ???
                    The judge threw the suit out of court after watching the video. Best I can remember they hammered on the car for almost two minutes, plus the car had met or exceeded the pre-auction estimate that the seller (a judge from MI) was shown prior to signing the contract to sell.
                    Last edited by Dick W.; June 24, 2012, 09:28 PM. Reason: Spallin'
                    Dick Whittington

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                    • William C.
                      NCRS Past President
                      • May 31, 1975
                      • 6037

                      #11
                      Re: Roy at BJ

                      Yes, Roy was there, saw him on TV. He quit bidding at just about what I figured the car was worth, remember it is an auction, the auctioneer did not "lie" in his description if you sorted out the facts he presented from the hype. (Lots of hype) Repaint BC/CC 390 converted to 400hp. I cannot remember a claim as to original block or not, but I caught the note that it was a converted 390, no mention of the original pieces. Buyer Beware!
                      Bill Clupper #618

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                      • Clark K.
                        Expired
                        • January 12, 2009
                        • 536

                        #12
                        Re: Roy at BJ

                        I watched the auction and I heard the announcer talk about Roy Sinor having looked at the car in question and had made a determination about the car. For those who don't know, Roy Sinor is the NCRS National Judging Chairman. Roy Sinor may be a vintage Corvette dealer in addition to his NCRS judging duties. BTW, when Roy Sinor and Terry Michaelis say something I pay close attention.
                        -Clark

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                        • Michael J.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7118

                          #13
                          Re: Roy at BJ

                          I agree, and if you should understand the difference with Terry when he says "numbers match" vs. "the real deal", wish I had.......
                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • Paul D.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • September 30, 1996
                            • 491

                            #14
                            Re: Roy at BJ

                            I happened to see that car being auctioned and recall Steve Davis (I think) refer to it as having been converted to 400 horse. When he said it, my first thought was that someone had "upgraded" it during the resto, but didn't the factory 400 horse cars show 2 options on the window sticker? One for 427/390 HP engine and one for 400 HP "conversion". I wonder which was the case with that car as I'm sure it would make a difference in the value. Also, I wonder how comfortable Roy was with being used as verification that the car was "worth the money". Chip.

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                            • Tracy C.
                              Expired
                              • July 31, 2003
                              • 2739

                              #15
                              Re: Roy at BJ

                              Originally posted by Clark Kirby (49862)
                              .... BTW, when Roy Sinor and Terry Michaelis say something I pay close attention.
                              -Clark
                              I wish you wouldn't put these two in the same category....as they are on opposite ends of the "truth" spectrum.

                              tc

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