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  • Donald H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 2, 2009
    • 2580

    #16
    Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

    Rich, do you think that the back end of the carpet is to long, or is the notch for the accelerator stud in the wrong place. From your picture with the new layed on top of your old that the actual problem is where that notch is cut.

    I guess it doesn't really matter that much, cause it can be fixed by cutting away some of the material at the rear. I'll see what they say tomorrow. Hopefully they will be agreeable to do a fast turn around and fix it for me. If not then I'll find a way to fix it myself.
    Don Harris
    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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    • Richard M.
      Super Moderator
      • August 31, 1988
      • 11323

      #17
      Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

      Don,

      Yes the picture may be a bit confusing. I wish I had one with old on top of new as it would be more obvious.......If I moved the carpet so it lined up at the sill, the pedal notch was now too high, and the top of the carpet was bunched up at the hole for the accelerator rod at the firewall.(pic below)

      It was definitely the end at the sill that was long. When the notch was lined up at the pedal, the top of the carpet fit properly. They cut 1 1/2" off the entire width of the main large after removing the little piece at the sill. Now that I think of it, I'm sure they also had to undo the binding at the inside rear corner to make the cut even, then re-sew that area too.

      I hope they can fix it for you quickly. Certainly a PITA.

      Rich
      Attached Files

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      • Donald H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 2, 2009
        • 2580

        #18
        Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

        Well I spoke to ACC today, even sent pictures to show the fit problem. Got a call back and they said since I bought from Corvette Central, I would have to go through CC. Call CC and now they are checking to see what if anything can be done.

        As I explained, it is a very simple fix, if I had a way to sew the binding back on I would fix myself. I get the sense that I may end up chasing my tail. I'm going to talk to a local upholstry shop to see if they will re-sew it if I take the binding loose and recut.

        Pictures attached, first shows the front fit, i.e. carpet can't go any higher on the firewall or the notch will not fit the accelerator studs and the top of the carpet will interfer with the accelerator arm going through the firewall. Second show the excess carpet at the rear along the door sill area.

        I assume ACC has a template for cutting this carpet, so I wonder why more people aren't having this problem, or if they just live with it
        Attached Files
        Don Harris
        Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
        Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11323

          #19
          Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

          Don,

          When I got mine it was via Zip. Zip forwarded my email/photos to ACC. Zip spoke to ACC and said they will fix it. ACC emailed me a UPS call tag to send my original and the new one back for correction. Twelve days later I got everything back and it was fixed.

          Corvette Central needs to do the same thing. They need to be involved becasue you bought from them, but ultimately yours needs to go back directly to ACC. If you decide that route.

          If you don't have a old carpet for reference, just make sure you give them a accurate measurent to cut. Maybe a paper template.

          Rich

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          • Donald H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 2, 2009
            • 2580

            #20
            Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

            Rich,

            I was not suprised that they wanted by to go through CC, I kind of expected it. I'll wait a couple of days to see what happens. What I was going to do, was actually put a piece of wide masking tape on the rear area of the carpet and mark it with notes to show what is needed.

            Unfortunately I don't have any old carpet, that's another thing that was missing when I bought the car.

            Thanks,

            Don
            Don Harris
            Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
            Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • August 31, 1988
              • 11323

              #21
              Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

              Don,

              What was your final outcome? Did ACC correct it or did you fix it yourself?

              Rich

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              • Donald H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 2, 2009
                • 2580

                #22
                Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
                Don,

                What was your final outcome? Did ACC correct it or did you fix it yourself?

                Rich
                I fixed it myself. I called ACC and since I bought from Corvette Central they said to call them. I did call CC and talked but never heard back. So I found some thread at a drapery shop and did it myself.

                A couple of days later a UPS return label showed up on my door from ACC. so they were going to fix it, I just got impatient!!

                Don
                Don Harris
                Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11323

                  #23
                  Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                  I'm hoping ACC has fixed their problems by now.

                  Has anyone else installed ACC carpets in a 58-62 lately? Did the Drivers' side fit properly?

                  The reason I ask is because Al Knoch has run out of 1959 Red Daytona raw materials and doesn't expect more for 6 weeks.

                  Rich

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                  • Donald H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 2, 2009
                    • 2580

                    #24
                    Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                    Actually I cut mine on both sides. It's long on the passenger side also, but as you know since there is not accelerator pedal to get in the way, I could have made the passenger side work. But since I had to fix the driver side, I went ahead and did the passenger side also.

                    I talked to the Al Knoch folks at Carlisle and found out they have a mill lined up. I'm surprised it is still 6 weeks out.
                    Don Harris
                    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11323

                      #25
                      Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                      The Daytona is 6 weeks out. I don't know about their Tuxedo.

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                      • Richard M.
                        Super Moderator
                        • August 31, 1988
                        • 11323

                        #26
                        Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                        I forgot to follow up on this thread, but guess what?

                        Back in October I got the new '59 Daytona carpet from ACC via one of the vendors...........

                        It was wrong again......... exactly like 3 years ago and Don's above. The Drivers side is always wrong for Don & me. Hope others have better luck.

                        ACC is sleeping and not listening. I think they have several people cutting, and if you get it right, it's from one, and if you get it wrong, it's from the other.

                        I was so frustrated and running out of time I cut it and fixed it myself.

                        edit. BTW, this has happened to me on both Daytona and Tuxedo carpets from ACC

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                        • Jim D.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 30, 1985
                          • 2884

                          #27
                          Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                          Has ACC given any kind of an explanation? As a side note, I just installed a complete ACC press molded set in my 65 coupe and the fit was absolutely flawless.

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                          • Donald H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • November 2, 2009
                            • 2580

                            #28
                            Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                            Rich,

                            I can only guess that others have not complained so they don't see a reason to change. Plus I didn't really pursue the issue other than my first call to them where they sent me back to Corvette Central.

                            Don
                            Don Harris
                            Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                            Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                            • Donald H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • November 2, 2009
                              • 2580

                              #29
                              Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                              Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
                              Has ACC given any kind of an explanation? As a side note, I just installed a complete ACC press molded set in my 65 coupe and the fit was absolutely flawless.
                              Jim,

                              Good to know. I have a 66 that I will need to do the interior. It has a mix of incorrect interior, some black and some dark blue, and should have dark blue per the trim tag. I have also heard good things about Corvette America carpet. Wonder if Corvette America makes up their own sets?

                              Don
                              Don Harris
                              Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
                              Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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                              • Richard M.
                                Super Moderator
                                • August 31, 1988
                                • 11323

                                #30
                                Re: Tuxedo carpet - Anyone make it correct other than Al Knoch?

                                Originally Posted by Jim Durham (8797)

                                Has ACC given any kind of an explanation? As a side note, I just installed a complete ACC press molded set in my 65 coupe and the fit was absolutely flawless.


                                They only said they would correct mistakes but never appeared concerned as to why the mistakes were made, or how to correct them. I never got a call back from their customer service inquiring about why they had the problem.

                                If you buy from ACC direct at retail pricing you can question the fit, but if you buy from a vendor at discount and ask them to inquire, it's unlikely you'll get a guarantee it'll fit. I believe ACC has a quality control issue on these 58-62 carpets. Some people have had no problems, others like Don & I have had problems.

                                I cannot comment on C2 ACC carpets, I've only used Al Knoch C2 carpets. Even had a few issues with those.

                                All I can recommend to purchasers of ACC 58-62 carpet, is to take a measurement from the gas pedal studs to the sill step and ask ACC to match it.

                                Rich

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