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  • Claus S.
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    • December 29, 2010
    • 414

    The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

    I am going to look at a Monaco Orange 1969 Corvette convertible with a 427 big block and manuell transmission either tomorrow or on Monday

    Is the only way i can find out if the car is original if the engine have the correct stamp on the pad? I will come back with the engine number
    Is there any other clues that i can look for to confirm if the car is a original small or big block car?

    The VIN is: 194679S722906

    Also is the Monaco orange the same color as the Hugger orange?

    The door pad says: K25, 990 paint, trim ZQ4
  • Russ S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1982
    • 2160

    #2
    Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

    990 is monaco paint zq4 is standard black vinyl interior

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    • Kenneth B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1984
      • 2084

      #3
      Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

      Originally posted by Claus Roger Schjerverud (52628)
      I am going to look at a Monaco Orange 1969 Corvette convertible with a 427 big block and manuell transmission either tomorrow or on Monday

      Is the only way i can find out if the car is original if the engine have the correct stamp on the pad? I will come back with the engine number
      Is there any other clues that i can look for to confirm if the car is a original small or big block car?

      The VIN is: 194679S722906

      Also is the Monaco orange the same color as the Hugger orange?

      The door pad says: K25, 990 paint, trim ZQ4
      You really need to take someone with you that knows Corvettes if you are asking this question. GOOD LUCK
      65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
      What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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      • Graeme B.
        Very Frequent User
        • October 23, 2007
        • 213

        #4
        Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

        Monaco for Corvette , Hugger for Camaro . Same colour .

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        • Claus S.
          Expired
          • December 29, 2010
          • 414

          #5
          Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

          It is just that i think if the engine pad is not original to the car there is no way to confirm that the car is a original block car

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #6
            Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

            Even a "good" engine stamp can be faked unless you are an expert. If you are looking at a high $$ car, owner history and paperwork are valuable items to have.
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Jim T.
              Expired
              • February 28, 1993
              • 5351

              #7
              Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

              Does the owner have the warranty booklet with the metal information plate attached? The metal plate if like my 70 will have correct info with the original stamped engine number and letter identification as well as the transmission and rear end identification. There will also be the imprinted plastic attached strip of the original owners name. Something else to check is the transmission stamping to see if it is the original? I doubt it, but the car could of came with a three speed. All manual 4-speeds did not happen until 1970.

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              • Sal C.
                Very Frequent User
                • November 30, 1984
                • 430

                #8
                Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                Clup's answer is the ONLY one.

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                • G A.
                  Expired
                  • February 17, 2010
                  • 229

                  #9
                  Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                  Claus,

                  I was wondering where this car is. The reason I ask is because around 5 years ago I looked at an orange/black convertible, supposedly a 427/435 and found the frame to be beyond recovery.

                  Dan

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                  • Paul O.
                    Frequent User
                    • August 31, 1990
                    • 1716

                    #10
                    Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                    Originally posted by Sal Carbone (8049)
                    Clup's answer is the ONLY one.
                    Also add documented paper work to that aka NCRS documentation service faked paper work is to easily made.

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                    • Claus S.
                      Expired
                      • December 29, 2010
                      • 414

                      #11
                      Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                      First of all i can get this car really cheap and i think this car is a original 390 hp 427 4 speed manual.

                      The only thing is that this car needs so much work(to much work)?

                      This car have been sitting for about 15 years and never been licensed in this country.

                      The car spent the most of its life in Blue Springs in Missouri i think. It was licensed to Mr Wood in Blue Springs in Missour US(i know i have heard Mr Woods name before)

                      I had a look at the car yesterday and it is a project. The original 427 does not have a return pipe to the gas tank but this one did.
                      But i looked at the engine and the VIN stamp on the engine matches the VIN of the car so i am pretty sure this car is a original 390 hp 427
                      The car needs a full respray, new exhaust, the drivers side of the frame is dented so the frame needs to be straighten out.
                      It looks like there are missing some shims on the rear body to frame connectors on both side because the rear of the car hangs(much bigger gap on the top of the doors than the bottom.
                      So first you have to straighten out the dents on the left side of the frame
                      Shim the body straight on the frame
                      Paint the frame and clean the undercarriage
                      The inner fenders have loosened from the fenders at the top so they must be glued on top again
                      Need new carpet, soft top, seat covers, door panels on both sides
                      The center console must be straighten because it was not sitting as supposed to in the car
                      There was a some new parts for the vacum(headlights and wiper door)but still need some hoses to make it operate
                      Pull off all outer parts on the car and do a full respray


                      Change parts on the car for about $4000/5000

                      But most of all is all the work the car needs and not to mention it will cost a lot

                      But there is no rust on the birdcage that i could see and no rust on the frame or radiator supposrt so i will call it a rustfree car
                      How much is a number matching 427 that needs the work i have listed above in the US?

                      Is this seat in cloth the original seat?(i know cloth is not original)


                      Dents on the left side of the frame(suppose somebody have tried to be a off road racer)


                      This looks like big block U joints to me


                      The VIN stamp on the engine
                      Last edited by Claus S.; June 4, 2012, 09:20 AM.

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                      • Claus S.
                        Expired
                        • December 29, 2010
                        • 414

                        #12
                        Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                        Is this the original left side exhaust manifold?


                        The right side exhaust manifold?

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                        • Patrick N.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • March 10, 2008
                          • 951

                          #13
                          Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                          I think another question to consider is what is your goal for the car ultimately? Driver or Judged? That will influence how far / much $$ you want to invest in the car and how important originality is to the car.

                          Good luck!
                          Pat

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                          • Claus S.
                            Expired
                            • December 29, 2010
                            • 414

                            #14
                            Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                            I am not looking for a car to have judged.
                            But i know i will fix the dents in the frame, have the interior in top shape, new rustfree exhaust and off course a respray in the original color.

                            One more thing is that if Monaco orange is the same as Hugger orange the 60`s Camaro`s looks better with that color than the Corvette.
                            But perhaps i think so because of the poor state of the paint on this car

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                            • Patrick N.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • March 10, 2008
                              • 951

                              #15
                              Re: The only way to confirm if a 1969 Corvette convertible is a original big block?

                              [QUOTE=Claus Roger Schjerverud (52628);616173]I am not looking for a car to have judged.
                              But i know i will fix the dents in the frame, have the interior in top shape, new rustfree exhaust and off course a respray in the original color.

                              You may want to check the triangular supports forward of the rear wheel and that section of the frame where the trailing arm pivot bolts attach. This tends to be a rust prone area- Other than that, like others have said, try to get as much info on the car now such as owner history, documents, phone numbers etc. You can check with a flash light to see if the tank sticker is still on the gas tank. open the gas lid, gently move the rubber out of the way on the left side, and with a flashlight you can shine it in and see if it the sticker is still there.

                              Sounds like a fun project.

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