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  • Tom L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • October 17, 2006
    • 1439

    Motor mount bolts

    When I removed the mounts there was an assortment of bolts in both the block and onto the frame. Does anyone know what are the correct lengths of each and what the appropriate head markings are??? I have a bunch of stray bolts and was hoping some might match. Thanks!!
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43194

    #2
    Re: Motor mount bolts

    Originally posted by Lynn Larsen (46337)
    When I removed the mounts there was an assortment of bolts in both the block and onto the frame. Does anyone know what are the correct lengths of each and what the appropriate head markings are??? I have a bunch of stray bolts and was hoping some might match. Thanks!!
    Lynn-----


    The motor mount-to-block bolts were 3/8-16 X 15/16", black phosphate, and trimmed (i.e. non-"indented") head. I don't recall headmarkings. I'm sure there were at least several.

    The through bolt is 7/16-14 X 4-7/16". It is zinc plated or electro-galvanized and has a trimmed head. It also has a pilot tip.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Joseph M.
      Expired
      • June 30, 1999
      • 334

      #3
      Re: Motor mount bolts

      Joe, is the through bolt also zinc plated for a 67? What type of nut was used on the through bolt? Thanks.

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      • Alan S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1989
        • 3415

        #4
        Re: Motor mount bolts

        Hi,
        The original mount to engine bolts on my mid-January 71 are a bit different than you descrbed Joe.
        They're indented head with a captive split lock washer.
        Did the style of bolt vary over the years?
        Thanks,
        Alan



        71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
        Mason Dixon Chapter
        Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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        • Patrick H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • November 30, 1989
          • 11611

          #5
          Re: Motor mount bolts

          Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
          Hi,
          The original mount to engine bolts on my mid-January 71 are a bit different than you described Joe.
          They're indented head with a captive split lock washer.
          Did the style of bolt vary over the years?
          Thanks,
          Alan
          I agree Alan - my 71 and 72 are exactly as you have pictured including same headmark.

          Patrick
          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
          71 "deer modified" coupe
          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
          2008 coupe
          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 31, 1988
            • 43194

            #6
            Re: Motor mount bolts

            Originally posted by Joseph Mule (32435)
            Joe, is the through bolt also zinc plated for a 67? What type of nut was used on the through bolt? Thanks.

            Joseph------

            I'm not sure of the finish on the 1967 bolt. It was shorter than the 70+ bolt due to the fact that the pre-1970 engine mounts were of the non-locking variety. I'm not sure about the nut but I think it was a zinc-plated, lock nut.


            ADDENDUM: From what I can determine from specs, the nut used for the through bolt was a 7/16-20 slotted locking nut, zinc plated, and 11/16" across-the-flats (wrench size). A slotted locking nut is a rather unusual configuration on GM cars. This nut was used through 1969 but not thereafter.
            Last edited by Joe L.; April 15, 2012, 01:51 PM.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43194

              #7
              Re: Motor mount bolts

              Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
              Hi,
              The original mount to engine bolts on my mid-January 71 are a bit different than you descrbed Joe.
              They're indented head with a captive split lock washer.
              Did the style of bolt vary over the years?
              Thanks,
              Alan



              Alan-----


              I was incorrect on my description of the bolts. My recollection was that they had a trimmed head but on further checking I find the GM #3748038 did have an untrimmed ("indented") head. They also did have the captured lockwasher. Of course, the captured lockwasher is a PRODUCTION-related convenience. For a restoration it's not necessary to use a bolt with a captured lockwasher. No one will ever know that the bolt and lockwasher are not an assembly.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Alan S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1989
                • 3415

                #8
                Re: Motor mount bolts

                Hi Joe,
                Thanks for the reply.
                I was curious because I DO value your knowledge on parts, fasteners, and finishes!!!!
                Regards,
                Alan
                71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                Mason Dixon Chapter
                Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • November 30, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: Motor mount bolts

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)

                  ADDENDUM: From what I can determine from specs, the nut used for the through bolt was a 7/16-20 slotted locking nut, zinc plated, and 11/16" across-the-flats (wrench size). A slotted locking nut is a rather unusual configuration on GM cars. This nut was used through 1969 but not thereafter.
                  Joe -

                  As I recall, those were Marsden nuts, and that was the only Corvette application for that unique style of locking nut; they were also found on many 1st-generation Camaro and Chevy II rear leaf spring rear shackle plate bolts.


                  MarsdenNut3.jpg

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • November 30, 1989
                    • 11611

                    #10
                    Re: Motor mount bolts

                    Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                    Joe -

                    As I recall, those were Marsden nuts, and that was the only Corvette application for that unique style of locking nut; they were also found on many 1st-generation Camaro and Chevy II rear leaf spring rear shackle plate bolts.


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                    Mine are the "deformed thread" nuts that are sort of shaped like a triangle internally.
                    I'm sure there is a proper name for them.

                    The same style is used to hold the power brake booster to the firewall on the inside. Worst nuts to remove on the whole car.

                    Patrick
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Joseph M.
                      Expired
                      • June 30, 1999
                      • 334

                      #11
                      Re: Motor mount bolts

                      Thanks for the info re the nut. Does anyone have a comment on the finish of a through bolt for a 67?

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • January 31, 1988
                        • 43194

                        #12
                        Re: Motor mount bolts

                        Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                        Mine are the "deformed thread" nuts that are sort of shaped like a triangle internally.
                        I'm sure there is a proper name for them.

                        The same style is used to hold the power brake booster to the firewall on the inside. Worst nuts to remove on the whole car.

                        Patrick
                        Patrick-----


                        They are called stover type lock nuts. 1970+ Corvettes used this style lock-nut on the through bolts. These are 7/16-14 whereas earlier used 7/16-20 slotted locking nuts.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Joseph M.
                          Expired
                          • June 30, 1999
                          • 334

                          #13
                          Re: Motor mount bolts

                          Does anyone know what finish is on the through bolts?

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • January 31, 1988
                            • 43194

                            #14
                            Re: Motor mount bolts

                            Originally posted by Joseph Mule (32435)
                            Does anyone know what finish is on the through bolts?

                            Joseph------


                            I'm pretty sure the GM #3817224 bolt used for most 63-69 was zinc plated, just like the longer 70-82 bolts. However, I'm not 100% sure as the 3817224 was never available in SERVICE.

                            By the way, 1965 with L-78 used a different bolt----GM #3832465. Why? Well, it probably had something to do with the fact that application was also supposed to have used unique, side-specific motor mounts. How were the mounts and bolt different? I do not know and neither the mounts nor the bolt were ever available in SERVICE. Were these parts actually used in PRODUCTION? I do not know that, either.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Joseph M.
                              Expired
                              • June 30, 1999
                              • 334

                              #15
                              Re: Motor mount bolts

                              Joe, thanks for the info.

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