1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

[David S.]

How does one tell the difference between a type I and type II jack?

Thanks,
Dave

[Jaime G.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Hi David.
I think the only difference is a stamping in the lifting arm. Like a reinforcement plate.
I have seen very few type 2s around.
Regards
JG

[Joe R.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

The article in "The Restorer" would be the best place for that information. Article was written by somebody in the backwards state of Arkansas. Must have written the article during the day as they have to pump sunlight into that state.

JR

[Tom H.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Hi David.
I think the only difference is a stamping in the lifting arm. Like a reinforcement plate.
I have seen very few type 2s around.
Regards
JG

Type 1 and type 2. They are different. Here's a type 1.

[Jim D.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

According the the Judging Guide and Joe's article, the type 1 was used in "early" 65's. I wonder what the definition of "early" is? My April car (#14790) has it's original jack and it's a Type 1. That's almost 2/3's of the way through the model year.

[Gary S.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

I was not sure what a Type II jack looked like, but after studying my jack pictures, TDB past descriptions and what the vendors are selling for repro, I made up these pictures. Am I on track here? No access to Restorer articles to check.

First, this is a known picture of a Type I Jack. Trunnion nut out and sealed collar washer. Note the lift arms are flat steel stampings
TypeOneJackNoReinforement.JPG


I believe this is a picture of a Type II jack. It is exactly like a Type I jack only the lift arms have a crimp in them that does not appear in the Type I jack. Are these crimps the "reinforcements" that are said to be the change?TypeIIJackReinforcement.JPG

Of interest is the repro jack listings for Long Island Corvette Supply and their listed use as shown:
Type I: Used in 63 to 65 Vin 7,000
Type II: Used 65 Vin 7,000 to 23,564 (65 Survivor two-owner car has a Type I jack)
Type III: Used 65 Vin 23,564 thru 66 and 67

Paragon listing of repro jacks and their listed use:
Type I: Used in 63 thru 65 Vin 7,000
Type II: Used in 65 Vin 7,000 to 65 Vin 21,000
Type III: Used in 65 Vin 21,000 thru 66 and 67.

Specifically, Paragon has a special picture of their Type II jack showing this reinforced section as seen next:
LiftArmReinforcementsTypeII.jpg
All type III jacks appear to continue with the reinforcement in the lift arm. The trunnion nut is inboard and the collar has a nylon washer.

Any thoughts?

Gary

[Joe R.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Here is a list of the 65's that listed the SN in the survey. Not all are represented here but just the ones who pledged on a stack of Bibles that their Corvette was original.
12,XXX TYPE II
13,XXX TYPE II
14,XXX TYPE II
19,XXX TYPE II
19,XXX TYPE II
20,XXX TYPE II
22,XXX TYPE I
22,XXX TYPE III

jr

[Jim D.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Here is a list of the 65's that listed the SN in the survey. Not all are represented here but just the ones who pledged on a stack of Bibles that their Corvette was original.
12,XXX TYPE II
13,XXX TYPE II
14,XXX TYPE II
19,XXX TYPE II
19,XXX TYPE II
20,XXX TYPE II
22,XXX TYPE I
22,XXX TYPE III

jr

You can add my Type 1 to your list. It is the jack the car left the dealership with on 4-23-65. Of course there is the possibility that the car left the factory with a Type 2 jack and the dealer swapped in a Type 1 jack before it was delivered the day after they received it.

[Gary S.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

I completely rewrote my post above. Should have deleted it and posted a new one, but too late. Check it out and see what you think.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

The jacks were reproduced by John Smith in Miami, Oklahoma using "The Restorer" article for his research. During the early years we spoke many times and the jacks were reproduced very carefully on tooling purchased by Mr. Smith. John no longer is affilated with the company that produces the jacks.

JR

[Tom H.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Gary, I'm not sure that one shot you have is actually a type 2. The end doesn't appear correct. Am I wrong on this ?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...3-c2-jack.html

[Joe T.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

would it be possible for you to look at a jack on e-bay for me and see if it is a type jack appropriate for my May 63 swc? I would greatly appreciate it, the search term I used is 1963 corvette jack and the sellers username is markawsarat. if you have time I would be greatful, Joe

[Gary S.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Ebay jack appears to be a Type II. You need a Type I. Type I looks just like the one on Ebay except it should have the flat lift arms on the end near the screw head like shown in this picture. My picture in post #7 shows a Type 2 with the reinforced lift arms. Anyone disagree?
TypeOneJackNoReinforement.JPG

[Joe T.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

thank you very very much, JOe

[William D.]

Re: 1965 Jack.... Type I vs Type II

Vin# 21326 - Type 2. Here's a pic!

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