69 heater hoses

[Joseph K.]

On a 69 SM I have heater hoses with the GM logo on the hoses. My JM says that they should be on the hoses but I was deducted point/s for having the logo on the hoses. Does the new JM say that they are not to be on the hoses??? Joe

[Terry M.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

Joe,

What version (Edition) and printing is on the TIM&JG that you have? I think the last couple of versions have had that removed for 1969. I am pretty sure we got that right in the new one, but I don't have my final draft here at work.

EDIT ADD: It is not a big deal to remove those GM []. A little lacquer thinner on a rag will do the deed. Be sure not to soak the rag. You don't want lacquer thinner on your paint unless you know it is not lacquer.

[Reba W.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

The third edition (presently in use) states that hoses may have a GM logo. This probably means the issue was in doubt at that time. The new guide out later this year states that there is no GM logo. It is the same for both 1968 and 1969.

[Joseph K.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

I am at work also and can not check but I am sure that it is the third edition and I agree with Reba. Terry I just want to double check before I remove them. Thanks Joe

[Terry M.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

I am at work also and can not check but I am sure that it is the third edition and I agree with Reba. Terry I just want to double check before I remove them. Thanks Joe

Take them GM [] off Joe. The mid-year guys like them. Us C3 folks don't. Personally, if I had a 1968, especially an earlier one, I could live with them -- but not a 1969 that I ever saw.

[Joseph K.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

Thanks Terry

[G A.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

Joseph,

The comments above are at odds with what is described and pictured in Rick Bizzoco's book, 1969 Stingray Guidebook, in the section 'Heater and Hoses' beginning on page 140 and the section 'Radiator Cap' beginning on page 137. Heater as well as surge tank hoses are shown and described as having the GM logo roll stamped on them. The serial numbers of the cars are 20981 and 18356.

Dan

[Dick W.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

Joseph,

The comments above are at odds with what is described and pictured in Rick Bizzoco's book, 1969 Stingray Guidebook, in the section 'Heater and Hoses' beginning on page 140 and the section 'Radiator Cap' beginning on page 137. Heater as well as surge tank hoses are shown and described as having the GM logo roll stamped on them. The serial numbers of the cars are 20981 and 18356.

Dan

Terry's reply is based on what has been seen on original cars. We have no way of knowing if the pictures in Bizzoco's book are of original or restored. Same thing with all books.

[G A.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

Terry's reply is based on what has been seen on original cars. We have no way of knowing if the pictures in Bizzoco's book are of original or restored. Same thing with all books.

True. But that doesn't prove the references wrong.

Since the book was first published in 1994, I would suppose that the material was compiled earlier, let's say 1991-1993. I wonder exactly who was repoping GM logo heater hose 20 years ago?

[Dick W.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

True. But that doesn't prove the references wrong.

Since the book was first published in 1994, I would suppose that the material was compiled earlier, let's say 1991-1993. I wonder exactly who was repoping GM logo heater hose 20 years ago?

I was selling logo GM hose in the mid to late 1980's. Don't know how much earlier it was done. That was when you could still get the totally correct ribbed hose, not what you see today. In fact I installed it on my L/88 car that received a Duntov and Bloomington Gold. In that era we did not know better. NCRS had only been judging those cars for two years.

[Terry M.]

Re: 69 heater hoses

True. But that doesn't prove the references wrong.

Since the book was first published in 1994, I would suppose that the material was compiled earlier, let's say 1991-1993. I wonder exactly who was repoping GM logo heater hose 20 years ago?

Dan if you are sure your Corvette came with heater hoses with the logo -- stand your ground. Who knows? 20 years from now the TIM&JG may go back to wanting the logo as more data is discovered. In judging it would help your case if you had photos of your Corvette in its youth with the logo equipped heater hoses.

Lacking evidence, the hoses with logo can be turned into no logo easily.

[Ron G.]

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Just my two cents. I have to agree with Terry. I have been a Bowtie and Survivor judge for a long time and never seen the GM logo on anything other than a mid-year. Like Terry says, if you have photos of from almost new, that would help your case and open the rest of us in possibly accepting the fact maybe they did, but personally and I am not the last word by no means have ever seen one. Again just my 2 cents.