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  • Jack C.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 30, 1992
    • 1090

    68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

    I'm looking for recommendations for a painter/artist who can repaint a spare gas door lid for me. As you know, the flags cannot be removed due to them being riveted in place and it would require someone with patients and skill. Any suggestions?
    Jack Corso
    1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
    Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021
  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 31, 1997
    • 6972

    #2
    Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

    Jack,

    Contact Joe Randolph (JPR3@aol.com). He's perfected this process for '67 gas lid doors. His approach might not work for 68, but some things might translate.

    Gary

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    • Alan S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1989
      • 3414

      #3
      Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

      Hi Jack,
      I see the words 'spin rivet' is used in the TIM/JG. Is this the same fellow as 'drive rivet', which with some luck can be removed and re-used, or replaced?
      What sort of paint are you looking to have put on your door?
      Regards,
      Alan
      71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
      Mason Dixon Chapter
      Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 31, 1988
        • 43191

        #4
        Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

        Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
        Hi Jack,
        I see the words 'spin rivet' is used in the TIM/JG. Is this the same fellow as 'drive rivet', which with some luck can be removed and re-used, or replaced?
        What sort of paint are you looking to have put on your door?
        Regards,
        Alan
        Alan-----


        They are not the same. The type of "rivet" used on the 1968 fuel door emblem is integral with the emblem. Once the emblem is removed by grinding off the rivet, it cannot be re-used.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 31, 1997
          • 6972

          #5
          Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

          Alan,

          Joe Randolph has a way to replace the rivets and make it look original.

          Gary

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          • Mark D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 30, 1988
            • 2141

            #6
            Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

            Richard Fortier has a fellow that paints these with a needle and syringe.
            Kramden

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            • Jack C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 30, 1992
              • 1090

              #7
              Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

              Thanks guy's, I'll reach out for Joe and Richard.
              Jack Corso
              1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
              Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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              • Jack C.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 30, 1992
                • 1090

                #8
                Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                The rivets appear to be part of the flags emblem itself. It looks like they were peened/punched over. For the paint, I have a rattle can of International Blue that was made specially for it.
                Jack Corso
                1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
                Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                  Originally posted by Jack Corso (21713)
                  The rivets appear to be part of the flags emblem itself. It looks like they were peened/punched over. For the paint, I have a rattle can of International Blue that was made specially for it.
                  The "rivets" are actually part of the mounting stud on the emblem. The vendor of the doors used a process that "spun" the ends of the studs that left them bradded over to hold the emblem on
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43191

                    #10
                    Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                    Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                    The "rivets" are actually part of the mounting stud on the emblem. The vendor of the doors used a process that "spun" the ends of the studs that left them bradded over to hold the emblem on
                    Dick-----


                    I believe the emblem was installed at St. Louis. They had the special machine required to set the "rivets". It was also used to install the door to the hinge. I'll bet they were glad when this arcane process ended after 1968 in favor of nuts and screws.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15569

                      #11
                      Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                      I remember someone once posted a drawing of the tool that peened over the studs. I wouldn't think of searching for it, but if I had a 1968 in the garage I would have that image saved on my computer -- but that's just me.
                      Terry

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • January 31, 1988
                        • 43191

                        #12
                        Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                        I remember someone once posted a drawing of the tool that peened over the studs. I wouldn't think of searching for it, but if I had a 1968 in the garage I would have that image saved on my computer -- but that's just me.
                        Terry-----


                        Reproductions of the 1968 fuel door emblem are available so if one had the tool one could, theoretically, achieve a factory-like installation of the emblem. However, no reproduction of the 1968 filler door is available. So, unless someone has developed a way to restore the door's integral "rivets", replacing or re-installing a door to the hinge in the original configuration would be a problem.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • John H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • November 30, 1997
                          • 16513

                          #13
                          Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                          Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                          I remember someone once posted a drawing of the tool that peened over the studs. I wouldn't think of searching for it, but if I had a 1968 in the garage I would have that image saved on my computer -- but that's just me.
                          Terry -

                          That was me - I made a sketch of the spin-rivet mandrel (fits in a drill press chuck), and I think I gave it to Ed McComas; I remember scanning the sketch, but can't find the image at the moment. Will post it if I locate it.

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15569

                            #14
                            Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                            Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                            Terry -

                            That was me - I made a sketch of the spin-rivet mandrel (fits in a drill press chuck), and I think I gave it to Ed McComas; I remember scanning the sketch, but can't find the image at the moment. Will post it if I locate it.
                            John, I thought it was you, but I didn't want to "out" you so publicly. Maybe Ed still has it.
                            Terry

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                            • Erik S.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • December 31, 2004
                              • 407

                              #15
                              Re: 68 Gas Door - Re-Paint Expert Needed

                              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                              I remember someone once posted a drawing of the tool that peened over the studs. I wouldn't think of searching for it, but if I had a 1968 in the garage I would have that image saved on my computer -- but that's just me.

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