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  • Frank B.
    Expired
    • April 30, 2002
    • 66

    Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

    I ask this question 10 years ago and just wanted to find out what current opinions are. Acrylic Lacquer or Base Clear? It seems the later is is more durable and would be more flexable on a Glass car. If I was to do base clear how would it effect judging?
  • Steve B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 2002
    • 1190

    #2
    Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

    Judging is based solely on appearance. A laquer repaint can receive a full deduct and a BC/CC can get full credit, it's all about how the job is done.

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    • Russ S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1982
      • 2162

      #3
      Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

      Originally posted by Steve Bramati (37512)
      Judging is based solely on appearance. A laquer repaint can receive a full deduct and a BC/CC can get full credit, it's all about how the job is done.
      That being said, in my opinion it is far better to do a BC/C that looks like a factory lacquer job than to use the poor quality lacquer you get today.

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      • Tom A.
        NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
        • May 31, 1986
        • 138

        #4
        Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

        Bc/cc with out a doubt! It is not difficult to get an oem appearance with BC/CC it just takes a little creativity. Do a search, there have been a number of posts on this subject. If you can't find what you need pm me and I'll give you the info you need.

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        • Alan S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1989
          • 3416

          #5
          Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

          Hi Frank,
          I really understand the ramifications of chosing acrylic lacquer, and why it's a poor choice for almost everyone.
          I'm still pleased with it though. My car was painted in 2005.
          Regards,
          Alan

          71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
          Mason Dixon Chapter
          Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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          • John F.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 23, 2008
            • 2408

            #6
            Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

            50+ year old lacquer!
            Attached Files

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            • Tom A.
              NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
              • May 31, 1986
              • 138

              #7
              Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

              Whether 7 years or 50 it's not the same as what we have today. EPA marches on.

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              • Pat M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 2006
                • 1575

                #8
                Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                Hi Frank,
                I really understand the ramifications of chosing acrylic lacquer, and why it's a poor choice for almost everyone.
                I'm still pleased with it though. My car was painted in 2005.
                Regards,
                Alan

                I agree completely, my car was painted with lacquer in 2007 and I'm very pleased.

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                • Jim R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 30, 2001
                  • 643

                  #9
                  Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                  05 Lacquer No issues.
                  Attached Files
                  JR

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                  • Bill C.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • May 31, 1989
                    • 424

                    #10
                    Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                    My two cents

                    I use lots of lacquer. Still readily available, its the tints that are getting harder to get. Also own car with 30 year old lacquer, pleased with the old job and never disappointed with current work results.

                    I do however take full advantage of the new epoxy primers and sealers, so the prep and foundation coats are superior to what was available before. I also know the new lacquers are softer, but still take just as high a gloss after properly finishing and I think its more flexible. So, for me, a better product than the "old" lacquer.

                    That said, are the newer paints better? Well, yes of course. More durable for sure. But, it always looks "different" to me the way it lays on the car, that is not a finish issue, just the nature of the product. And repairs if needed can be blended easily with lacquer if need be.

                    So, personal preference. Depends on how the car is to be used.

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                    • Thomas H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 2005
                      • 1058

                      #11
                      Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                      Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                      Hi Frank,
                      I really understand the ramifications of chosing acrylic lacquer, and why it's a poor choice for almost everyone.
                      I'm still pleased with it though. My car was painted in 2005.
                      Regards,
                      Alan

                      Red is such a great color for the chrome bumper sharks. As much as I like my Bridghampton Blue 71, I still like the looks of a red one better.

                      As for me, I am planning to start the body off process in the early fall and will be going BC/CC. The trick will be finding someone around here (eastern PA) that can do the body and paint work over the period of ONE winter, not several...........

                      Tom
                      1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                      1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                      1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                      1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                      1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                      2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                      Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                      • Pat M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 2006
                        • 1575

                        #12
                        Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                        Originally posted by Bill Caldwell (15218)
                        And repairs if needed can be blended easily with lacquer if need be.
                        Agreed. In addition to being happy with the initial results, my paint job needed two repairs, one pretty major, and you literally cannot tell any repairs were made at all.

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                        • Alan S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1989
                          • 3416

                          #13
                          Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                          Hi Bill,
                          Although I can't really explain it, I too see a difference in "the way it lays on the car".
                          Sorta like really tight blue jeans on a shapely 'person'.
                          Regards,
                          Alan
                          71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                          Mason Dixon Chapter
                          Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                          • Dick W.
                            Former NCRS Director Region IV
                            • June 30, 1985
                            • 10483

                            #14
                            Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                            I think that a major problem with lacquer is finding a painter that knows how to spray it. It has been out of the mainstream for 30 years and most that used it daily have retired.

                            Tom Ames had a post sometime back that was a good narrative on using modern paint, do a search and you can see the difference in application for our cars and what the painter normally would do
                            Dick Whittington

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                            • Chris S.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 1, 2000
                              • 1067

                              #15
                              Re: Acrylic Lacquer versa Base Clear 1971

                              Single stage !!!!!!!!!
                              IMO - one can recreate Laq look with the flexiblity and using todays technology....
                              Easier to make single stage look OE
                              1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
                              Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
                              1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
                              1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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