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  • Jack P.
    Expired
    • March 19, 2009
    • 1135

    326 water pump question

    I have a 326 1968 water pump with a GM 5

    I have a 326 with a GM 1

    What do the numbers 1 or 5 indicate

    Both have the larger bypass hole.

    Jack

    PS 66 L-79 motor
  • Duke W.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 31, 1992
    • 15600

    #2
    Re: 326 water pump question

    Those are the tooling set numbers.

    Duke

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    • Jack P.
      Expired
      • March 19, 2009
      • 1135

      #3
      Re: 326 water pump question

      Hi and thanks, but does that mean one was made before another......5 was the 5th tool ? Casting ?

      Jack

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 31, 1988
        • 43191

        #4
        Re: 326 water pump question

        Originally posted by Jack Panzica (50215)
        Hi and thanks, but does that mean one was made before another......5 was the 5th tool ? Casting ?

        Jack

        Jack------

        "1" would have been the first pattern fabricated for the pump casting. "5" would have been the fifth. However, they both could have been done at essentially the same time and, whether they were or not, they could have been in use at the same time. Not too much can be inferred from pattern numbers.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Duke W.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 31, 1992
          • 15600

          #5
          Re: 326 water pump question

          Most GM iron castings have these tooling set numbers embedded in the casting. At any point in production, several sets could be in use. If it was a high volume part that was in production for some time the tooling set numbers go into double digits.

          Tooling wears with use. Sometimes it can be refurbished, but sometimes it's just scrapped and replaced.

          If there were casting problems - either high reject rates or problems in the field like leaking due to porosity, the tooling set numbers allowed GM to trace the problem. That's why the casting part number, tooling set number, and casting dates are embedded in the castings. It's a way to track and trace quality issues.

          Duke

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          • John D.
            Very Frequent User
            • June 30, 1991
            • 874

            #6
            Re: 326 water pump question

            I have two 326's including an older one with a cast "S" in it. I have heard it's a Saginaw casting which were not used on Corvettes...is that correct ?

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            • Jack P.
              Expired
              • March 19, 2009
              • 1135

              #7
              Re: 326 water pump question

              Hi and thanks for the info, Great, I now have a # 1 casting for a 3/4 bypass, that is better than # 5 however, it is not a 1/2 " that would be correct for my incorrect car.

              Jack

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • January 31, 1988
                • 43191

                #8
                Re: 326 water pump question

                Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
                I have two 326's including an older one with a cast "S" in it. I have heard it's a Saginaw casting which were not used on Corvettes...is that correct ?
                John------


                Saginaw castings were used for virtually all small block components used on Corvettes. However, Saginaw castings only rarely are identified with an "S" casting mark.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • January 31, 1988
                  • 43191

                  #9
                  Re: 326 water pump question

                  Originally posted by Jack Panzica (50215)
                  Hi and thanks for the info, Great, I now have a # 1 casting for a 3/4 bypass, that is better than # 5 however, it is not a 1/2 " that would be correct for my incorrect car.

                  Jack

                  Jack------


                  I don't think a #1 pattern number is really any better than a #5. The '326' casting is the same regardless of whether it's external bypass boss is tapped for 1/2" NPT or 3/4" NPT.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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