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  • Kenneth B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1984
    • 2087

    Repo tire dedction

    I have a set of Goodrich red line 775X15 repo tires. I know that BFG only made white walls for 67 corvettes. My question is would I lose all points for the 4 tires? THANKS
    PS when did NCRS stop putting a copy of the judging sheets in the back of the manual/guide.
    KEN
    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Repo tire dedction

    Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
    I have a set of Goodrich red line 775X15 repo tires. I know that BFG only made white walls for 67 corvettes. My question is would I lose all points for the 4 tires? THANKS
    PS when did NCRS stop putting a copy of the judging sheets in the back of the manual/guide.
    KEN
    Judging sheets can be found on the NCRS homepage https://www.ncrs.org/membership/scoresheets.html

    To get the deduction, you will have to get that from the judging reference manual.
    Dick Whittington

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    • Kenneth B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1984
      • 2087

      #3
      Re: Repo tire dedction

      Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
      Judging sheets can be found on the NCRS homepage https://www.ncrs.org/membership/scoresheets.html

      To get the deduction, you will have to get that from the judging reference manual.
      DICK
      The manual says that repo tires must match availble OME brands. BFG was a OEM supplier but not for redlines hence my question

      KEN
      65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
      What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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      • Kevin G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • February 1, 2005
        • 1076

        #4
        Re: Repo tire dedction

        If you were to judge the tires..............how many points would you take according to the Standard Deduct Table?

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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6940

          #5
          Re: Repo tire dedction

          Ken it looks like either a 20 or 30 percent deduct. depending on how the rest of the tire judges, number of ribs,tread design, etc., tires are worth 30 points for all 5 tires.looks like either 2or 3 points deduct.
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Bruce D.
            Frequent User
            • August 31, 1980
            • 87

            #6
            Re: Repo tire dedction

            I would guess 40% since they did not supply that tire/config. it would be like it was the wrong brand for that style tire..
            Bruce

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            • Kenneth B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1984
              • 2087

              #7
              Re: Repo tire dedction

              Originally posted by Bruce De Leon (3898)
              I would guess 40% since they did not supply that tire/config. it would be like it was the wrong brand for that style tire..
              OK I have heard 20,30 or 40%. It would seem that someone would know for sure. The question seems straight forward & not subjective. I appreciate all the comments but if I thought that I could look up the answer I would not have ask the question. Hope someone can tell me for sure what the deduct is. THANKS
              KEN
              65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
              What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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              • Terry B.
                Very Frequent User
                • August 31, 1999
                • 607

                #8
                Re: Repo tire dedction

                Hi Ken,

                It's hard to be exact without seeing the tire(s) in person. Condition plays a part in the score and it's hard to figure with out seeing the tire(s). If I were you I would plan on the worst case and take the 40% off and that way you might be pleasantly surprised if the point loss is less.

                Terry
                Terry Buchanan

                Webmaster / Secretary - Heart of Ohio Chapter www.ncrs.org/hoo

                Corvettes Owned:
                1977 Coupe
                1968 Convertible 427/390 (L-36) Chapter Top Flight 2007, Regional Top Flight 2010, National Top Flight 2011
                2003 Electron Blue Coupe
                2019 Torch Red Grand Sport Coupe

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                • Michael J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 27, 2009
                  • 7118

                  #9
                  Re: Repo tire dedction

                  I have answered this before, some have questioned it and said I was very lucky (twice with national judges doing it), but it is what my judging sheets say after two meets, chapter and regional. I have the same situation, '67 redline BFGs that are the correct size bias ply, but DOT stamped. They are about 3 years old but in good condition. The deduction was 3 points for the DOT, or 10% on originality, nothing else.
                  Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                  • Gene M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1985
                    • 4232

                    #10
                    Re: Repo tire dedction

                    Ken,
                    The 40% deduct say exactly what you have a color side wall but a non manufacturer of that tire configuration. You have the correct side wall but not an OEM brand for that tire. It seems very clear.

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                    • Bruce D.
                      Frequent User
                      • August 31, 1980
                      • 87

                      #11
                      Re: Repo tire dedction

                      Ken. Sorry if I confused the situation with the possible 40% deduct. As you can see there are different opinions on the application of the specific deduction guidelines for your case because of the fact that the specific manf did not produce those tires for that car. The best other suggestion I can give you is to go to your team lead for your year car and see what he says. He is the one that will have the final call and any differences or any speccific challenges will be bumped up to him for a final decoision. In essence, he is the final authority on the specifics about the details questions on this call.
                      Bruce

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                      • Kenneth B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1984
                        • 2087

                        #12
                        Re: Repo tire dedction

                        Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                        I have answered this before, some have questioned it and said I was very lucky (twice with national judges doing it), but it is what my judging sheets say after two meets, chapter and regional. I have the same situation, '67 redline BFGs that are the correct size bias ply, but DOT stamped. They are about 3 years old but in good condition. The deduction was 3 points for the DOT, or 10% on originality, nothing else.
                        THANKS GUYS That is what I needed to know. My BFG'S are the the correct size bias that are in new condition also. I don't mind a deduct like that but do not want to lose all the orig/cond. points because of being BFG/redlines
                        KEN
                        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                        What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                        • Kevin G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 1, 2005
                          • 1076

                          #13
                          Re: Repo tire dedction

                          I thought the "Standard Deduction" removed the confusion................???

                          1. DOT markings= -10%
                          2. Slight diferences= -20%
                          3. Considerable differences= -30%
                          4. Repo NON OEM= -40%
                          5. Current Day OEM= -60%
                          6. All above NON OEM= -75%
                          7. All others, whitewalls in= - 100%

                          How do your tires relate to the list?

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