1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

[Bill C.]

Hi,
A bit confused on this issue and have found no clarification doing a search of this board. Including the post by Ken Giles from 2 days ago asking pretty much the same question, but got no definitive clarification.

I understand the spare tire need not match the 4 road tires as far as manufacturer but what about option a far as whitewall/goldline/blackwall? Does that need match? Or is it possible say to have 4 Goodyear goldlines as road tires, and a whitewall or blackwall spare of matching or different manufacturer?

I have 5 new Goodyear repo goldlines for use and I also have a Firestone original non-DOT whitewall, showing wear but at least 60% tread. Which I could use as the spare as its original instead of the goldline new repo.

Trying to determine which would be best, points wise.

Hoping to get a firm answer!

Bill Caldwell

[Bill W.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill,
You may use your original Firestone non DOT as a spare with no deduct. Bill

[Bill C.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill,
Thanks, but just to be sure, no deduct even though its a white wall and the repro road tires are goldline?

I also was thinking even though original, its condition deduct at about 60% thread depth left may equate to same deduct for repo points wise.


Thanks again for responding!
Bill

[Bill W.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill, As long as it's an original tire you will not receive an originality deduct weather it matches the sidewall style of your other tires or not. Sounds like you MAY lose something on condition. Good luck. Bill

[Chris E.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill, As long as it's an original tire you will not receive an originality deduct weather it matches the sidewall style of your other tires or not. Sounds like you MAY lose something on condition. Good luck. Bill

Bill, not trying to contradict you at all, just curious about this.

Would Chevy really have put a different spare in the tire tub than the tires that were on the car? Seems a little odd to me. I suspect the judging of this is being more lenient because of the desire to see original parts with the car, which I support. Just trying to get it straight in my head.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill, not trying to contradict you at all, just curious about this.

Would Chevy really have put a different spare in the tire tub than the tires that were on the car? Seems a little odd to me. I suspect the judging of this is being more lenient because of the desire to see original parts with the car, which I support. Just trying to get it straight in my head.

You have the motivation for this rule exactly right. We want to see the original spare (or a fair facsimile) wherever possible. You should see the excited people when an original spare comes out. It is sometimes embarrassing to see the way grown people behave.

[Bill W.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Terry, Yes, we get excited over the original parts left on some of these old cars. My '66 still has it's original goldline Firestone spare that looks like a pregnant donut. The judges at Joplin liked it and it still holds (a little) air. Bill

[Terry M.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Terry, Yes, we get excited over the original parts left on some of these old cars. My '66 still has it's original goldline Firestone spare that looks like a pregnant donut. The judges at Joplin liked it and it still holds (a little) air. Bill

[Peter L.]

Re: 1966 spare tire need to match manufacturer AND type as 4 on car?

Bill C - Please check the information in the Judging Reference Manual, Section 4, No. 3. "Tires", for further clarification; but the 1966 NCRS TIM&JG in 20. Tires reads as follows: "Judging Guidance: Judge road tires and spare separately. ...................... Do not deduct for non-matching spare which appears as original. (From JRM) ........................etc.

While originally in Production the spare might well have matched or maybe it did not the road tires, I personally thinks it's a great opportunity for the owner to get points and for judges and others to see original tires and possibly original wheels and wheel weights with minimal concern about the safety of original tires on the road wheels.

Also, I know many NCRSers "have been there and done that." It worked for me at the 2001 Regional in Albuquerque, i.e., no deduction for the original spare that did not match the Kelsey Goodyear Power Cushion road tires.

BTW, Terry's story is a good one; and I'm sure the air in Bill W's original spare tire is NOS "hot" air.

Pete