Spinner orientation

[Karl K.]

I have a 65 with hubcaps and recieved a deduction during judging because of the spinner orientation. Looking thru the archives it seems that the masts of the flags point towards the hole for the valve stem. With mine I would have to point the tops of the flags toward the valve stem hole. I think the hubcaps are original but the spinners may have been replaced. What is the correct orientation if any and how can I tell if they are original?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Karl

[Duke W.]

Re: Spinner orientation

What does the JG say?

Also, look at the AIM. The spinners were likely installed at St. Louis, so the AIM assembly instruction drawing will state if there was a preferred orientation, if any.

Duke

[Michael H.]

Re: Spinner orientation

I have a 65 with hubcaps and recieved a deduction during judging because of the spinner orientation. Looking thru the archives it seems that the masts of the flags point towards the hole for the valve stem. With mine I would have to point the tops of the flags toward the valve stem hole. I think the hubcaps are original but the spinners may have been replaced. What is the correct orientation if any and how can I tell if they are original?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Karl

Karl,

There is no such thing as a "correct clock position" for the spinner. They were installed randomly at the St Louis assembly plant.

[John H.]

Re: Spinner orientation

I have a 65 with hubcaps and recieved a deduction during judging because of the spinner orientation. Looking thru the archives it seems that the masts of the flags point towards the hole for the valve stem. With mine I would have to point the tops of the flags toward the valve stem hole. I think the hubcaps are original but the spinners may have been replaced. What is the correct orientation if any and how can I tell if they are original?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Karl

Karl -

There is NO "correct orientation" for the spinner; the spinner came from the supplier with the ornament/emblem already installed, it was placed upside-down in a "nest" in the bench subassembly fixture, the upside-down wheel cover was placed over it, the reinforcement disc was located on the cover, and the three screws were driven. There were three possible orientations resulting from this operation (the three screw holes were equally spaced), all of which were random.

There was no Engineering requirement to orient the parts in any specific position, the parts could go together three different ways, and the parts were upside-down in the fixture with the spinner (and the ornament) not visible. Anyone who thinks those parts were only assembled one way simply doesn't understand the process.

Here's a link to a previous discussion on this same subject:

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=75859&highlight=Spinners

[Edward B.]

Re: Spinner orientation

I have a 65 with hubcaps and recieved a deduction during judging because of the spinner orientation.

Sounds like another example of a judge who thought he knew more than he really did - probably well intentioned, but very discouraging for the masses.

[Loren L.]

Re: Spinner orientation

Fits right alongside the earlier JGs which recite that the spinner points to the valve stem hole......what rubbish....

[Gary C.]

Re: Spinner orientation

FWIW, there's a hub cap assembly blueprint in the NCRS archives for a C2, sorry can't recall if it's 63 or another C2 year. The assembly drawing shows the spinner orientation as - spinner ends horizontal (90 & 270 degrees), valve stem at the bottom (180 degrees).

Hinckley was there and knows best how they were installed.

Gary
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[Jim D.]

Re: Spinner orientation

FWIW, there's a hub cap assembly blueprint in the NCRS archives for a C2, sorry can't recall if it's 63 or another C2 year. The assembly drawing shows the spinner orientation as - spinner ends horizontal (90 & 270 degrees), valve stem at the bottom (180 degrees).

Hinckley was there and knows best how they were installed.

Gary
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Post the reference and I'll jump on the bandwagon. Otherwise, I'll go with the educated masses and say it's B.S.

[Loren L.]

Re: Spinner orientation

I'm unaware of ANY 2 bar hubcap spinner in the C2 era......unless we're talking about the Corvair wire wheel 2 bar......

[Michael H.]

Re: Spinner orientation

FWIW, there's a hub cap assembly blueprint in the NCRS archives for a C2, sorry can't recall if it's 63 or another C2 year. The assembly drawing shows the spinner orientation as - spinner ends horizontal (90 & 270 degrees), valve stem at the bottom (180 degrees).

Hinckley was there and knows best how they were installed.

Gary
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Gary,

I think that has to do with the clock position of the spinner related to the cover and valve stem hole, not the flag/insert to the cover/valve stem. This would be the location of the three holes in the cover for attachment.

[Gary C.]

Re: Spinner orientation

Correction - meant the emblem not the spinner orientation.

Here's a poor quality JPG file of a '69 hub cap assembly which shows the orientation.

The C2 print is in the NCRS archives at the AACA Library and available for anyone to look at.

Gary
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[Carl N.]

Re: Spinner orientation

Don't Flame Me But -----

I can't resist jumping in on this - it's been so long since I'v seen a '65 with anything but knockoffs I'm surprised there are any hubcaps left !!!
Just trying to lighten the mood - LOL

Carl

[Jim D.]

Re: Spinner orientation

Carl, My 65 still has it's original hubcaps and there is no standard as to the spinner orientation.

[Wayne M.]

Re: Spinner orientation

Here's a GM promo photo. You can see valve hole on the front wheel, and it's definitely not what "some" of the judges are looking for. Also, the hole on the rear wheel is hidden, but you can see by the orientation of the X-flags vis-a-vis the ears on the spinner that it's definitely not on the bottom of a vertical centerline formed by the crossed flags.



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