67 Door aux weatherstrips

[Mike E.]

What kind of push-in buttons are correct? The weatherstrip I received has plastic ones. The original? ones I took out are metal. Which are correct?
Thanks!

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

What kind of push-in buttons are correct? The weatherstrip I received has plastic ones. The original? ones I took out are metal. Which are correct?
Thanks!

Mike,

I'm interested to learn more about this too. The examples that came off my '67 were metal like yours. If I understand correctly from threads in the archives, they were plastic up until some point in 1965 or 1966, then changed to metal. The 1963 through 1967 AIMs all show the same part number (67AIM: 1Doors-K12, Item 4, GM 4841194), so whenever the change occurred on the production line, the AIMs were not revised in this case.

The 1967 P&A shows GM 4841194 (the p/n shown in ALL the midyear AIMs) applies to several vehicles, but as far as Corvettes are concerned, only to 1963 Corvette convertible (exc. aux. top) and 1964 Corvette (side door aux. w/strip). What I think is the metal button part number (GM 4653672) is called out in the 1967 P&A for a number of different vehicles, including:

1956-62 Corvette (side door aux. w/strip) (Gr. 10.695)
63-67 Corvette (CONV.) (folding top extension header and side frt. w/strip) (Gr. 10.695)
66-67 Corvette (side door aux. w/strip) (Gr. 10.695)

Also, the 1970 Standard Parts book shows a drawing of GM 4653672, and it looks like my originals. Listed in Group 8.993-E Fasteners, called "Type A", Size 13/32".
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[Mike E.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Thanks for the explanation! I know that the original 56-62 aux weatherstrip buttons were definitely the metal ones.

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Thanks for the explanation! I know that the original 56-62 aux weatherstrip buttons were definitely the metal ones.

In that case, I think that just about seals the deal, good to know. It looks like GM returned to using metal for 66-67 and nobody told the AIM writers/illustrators. Do the 1962 and earlier AIMs show the same part number as the P&A (GM 4653672) listed for the "side door aux. w/strip" fastener?


Curiously, I don't see 1965 Corvettes mentioned in the P&As for either part number at the side door aux. w/strip application.

[Bill C.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Anything further on this as to which style is correct for a late 66 car?

[Bill C.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Anybody? Or is this one of those "undetermined"? Or, even more probable, what am I missing?

Bill

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Anything further on this as to which style is correct for a late 66 car?

Bill,

The two AIMs (66-67) call out the same wrong part number (GM 4841194), which I think is the part number for the plastic push-in rivets used in previous model years (e.g., 65JG, p. 32).

The P&A shows what I think is the metal push-in pan head rivet (GM 4653672) being applicable for both 1966 & 1967.

The 66JG (p. 17) and the 67JG (p. 29) both call for the black metal push-in pan head type rivets.


So, I would go with the metal type based on what the majority of the books say, but as always, it would be good to hear from a few 1966 Corvette owners to be sure.

[Bill C.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Thanks Scott!

Maybe some original 66 owners will comment.

Bill

[Neal K.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Mike, Scott and Bill
I saw Bills post and I am at the point in the restoration of my early 67 convertible(Sept 66 production) that I am getting ready to install the door opening and hinge pillar weatherstrip. On page 1-F16 of the AIM it shows the detail for the door opening hinge pillar. On the convertible the weatherstrip on the hinge pillar is shown to be held on by 3 screws and a rivet(the same as the 4653672 metal button discussed by Mike and Scott for the side auxilary weatherstrip) My original hinge pillar weatherstrip only had 2 screws(not 3 screwa as shown---the 3825467 screw and hole for it are non existant in my car) and the metal rivet. My side door auxilary weatherstrip had 3 plastic fasteners(page 1-K12 of the AIM part no.4841194)but I can not say for sure if the auxilary weatherstrip and fasteners had been changed over the years. Scott I know your car is a coupe so the door opening weatherstrip would be different. The new auxilary weatherstrip I purchased came with the plastic fasteners. Is it possible the application of the revisionfrom plastic fasteners to metal rivets for the auxilary door weatherstrip occured sometime during the 67 production run?
Neal

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

Mike, Scott and Bill
I saw Bills post and I am at the point in the restoration of my early 67 convertible(Sept 66 production) that I am getting ready to install the door opening and hinge pillar weatherstrip. On page 1-F16 of the AIM it shows the detail for the door opening hinge pillar. On the convertible the weatherstrip on the hinge pillar is shown to be held on by 3 screws and a rivet(the same as the 4653672 metal button discussed by Mike and Scott for the side auxilary weatherstrip) My original hinge pillar weatherstrip only had 2 screws(not 3 screwa as shown---the 3825467 screw and hole for it are non existant in my car) and the metal rivet. My side door auxilary weatherstrip had 3 plastic fasteners(page 1-K12 of the AIM part no.4841194)but I can not say for sure if the auxilary weatherstrip and fasteners had been changed over the years. Scott I know your car is a coupe so the door opening weatherstrip would be different. The new auxilary weatherstrip I purchased came with the plastic fasteners. Is it possible the application of the revisionfrom plastic fasteners to metal rivets for the auxilary door weatherstrip occured sometime during the 67 production run?
Neal

Neal,

It seems that everything is always possible when it comes to these old cars

If it turns out that you need the metal push-in rivets, at least one of the vendors carries them. They come in a package of eight, I thought four were required per door for the "L" shaped auxiliary weatherstrip shown on 1Doors-K12 (item 3 weatherstrip, item 4 fastener).

I have read about and seen various combinations of fasteners for the door opening weatherstrip assembly (1ASM-F16, item 4, convertible), so I don't know if there's any "correct" answer. The 67 AIM only shows two screws per side for the coupe, but mine had the same three per side that are called out for the convertible: 2 x GM 9418711 (black Phillips screw) and 1 x GM 3825467 (black Phillips round-head washer-face screw, same as used on the glove box, 1ASM-E4, item 19). I had no push-in rivet, but I did have the GM 3828470 aluminum pop-rivet (item 11).

I have seen this same thing on other '67 coupes, so I don't think it was unusual.

[Russ S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

My march 66 has the plastic ones.

[Neal K.]

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Scott,
Sorry there are 4, not 3, plastic fasteners in the side door auxilary weatherstrip.
Which vendor carries the metal button head rivets?
Is there another early 67 production corvette owner who has the plastic fasteners in their side door auxilary weatherstrip instead of the metal button head rivet
Neal

[Bill H.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

My jan. build 67 coupe: The hinge pillar - 2 screws and an alum. rivet (per the AIM). And the door aux. weatherstrip - 4 metal push in rivets.

[Timothy B.]

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I own a September 1966 built 67 convertible and the door aux. weatherstrip has four plastic push in rivets.

I am almost sure they are the original parts as I removed the rubber cleaned it and reinstalled the original but it was some time ago.

[Scott S.]

Re: 67 Door aux weatherstrips

On the convertible the weatherstrip on the hinge pillar is shown to be held on by 3 screws and a rivet(the same as the 4653672 metal button discussed by Mike and Scott for the side auxilary weatherstrip) My original hinge pillar weatherstrip only had 2 screws(not 3 screwa as shown---the 3825467 screw and hole for it are non existant in my car) and the metal rivet.

Neal,

The first picture below is of a 67 L79 convertible Top Flight car (award year unknown) that was at Carlisle a couple of years ago. I see three screws, hard to say if the push-in rivet is hiding somewhere in there or not. No idea if that hinge pillar weatherstrip is original, but it definitely looks old.

The second picture is what was on my Jan. '67 coupe, you can see the screw closest to the windshield is the flange-head/washer-face screw (also found at the glove box location), called out in the AIM for the convertible hinge pillar weatherstrip, not the coupe, and yet there it is.

Third picture is the (presumed) original LH hinge pillar weatherstrip (top) and a NOS example (bottom) obtained at Delco-Moraine on October 7, 1976.

Fourth picture is the backside of the same (presumed) original and NOS hinge pillar weatherstrips.