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  • Paul Y.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 1982
    • 570

    1970-71 Nos Lt1

    I picked up an NOS December 10, 1970 dated short block in the original crate last week and I thought I would post some pictures of the markings on it and paint inspection marks. I can find a lightly stamped CE on the pad that is very faint.
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  • Paul Y.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 1982
    • 570

    #2
    Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

    Here is a couple more. Can anyone tell me what these inspection marks mean on the block?
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    • Timothy B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1983
      • 5186

      #3
      Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

      Paul,

      I can't help with the markings but that is a very nice piece.. Where did you find the motor..

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      • Duke W.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 1, 1993
        • 15667

        #4
        Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

        The crayon marks on the block may be from inspectors, and/or ID this job to receive the LT-1 crankshaft, however, the block is othewise identifiable because I think it was the only '70 SB machined for four bolt main caps.

        The "H" on the piston is probably the size group and there should be some codes underneath to indicate the piston size for each cylinder. The pistons were installed with the block upside down. There were about four piston size groups, and one was selected based on bore measurement for each cylinder.

        John Hinckley can probably provide more info.

        Is the cam sprocket nylon-tooth or steel-tooth?

        Duke

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43219

          #5
          Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

          Originally posted by Paul Young (5962)
          I picked up an NOS December 10, 1970 dated short block in the original crate last week and I thought I would post some pictures of the markings on it and paint inspection marks. I can find a lightly stamped CE on the pad that is very faint.
          Paul------


          This is a 1971-72 LT-1 short block, not also applicable to 1970. Note the piston crowns. This style crown is the 9.0:1 CR used for 1971-72 but not 1970.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43219

            #6
            Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

            Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
            The crayon marks on the block may be from inspectors, and/or ID this job to receive the LT-1 crankshaft, however, the block is othewise identifiable because I think it was the only '70 SB machined for four bolt main caps.

            The "H" on the piston is probably the size group and there should be some codes underneath to indicate the piston size for each cylinder. The pistons were installed with the block upside down. There were about four piston size groups, and one was selected based on bore measurement for each cylinder.

            John Hinckley can probably provide more info.

            Is the cam sprocket nylon-tooth or steel-tooth?

            Duke

            Duke-----


            All 1970-72 LT-1 were equipped with 4 bolt main caps.

            If the installed camshaft sprocket is anything other than nylon-toothed aluminum I'll be amazed.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Stephen B.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 1, 1988
              • 876

              #7
              Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

              I had a genuine NOS 1970 LT-1 short block a couple of years ago. It did not have any marking on it.

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              • Steven G.
                Expired
                • November 17, 2008
                • 348

                #8
                Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Duke-----


                All 1970-72 LT-1 were equipped with 4 bolt main caps.

                If the installed camshaft sprocket is anything other than nylon-toothed aluminum I'll be amazed.
                I believe other small blocks used 4 bolt main caps as well, not just LT-1's, I'd expect to see the same on my L-46. Steve
                Last edited by Steven G.; October 30, 2011, 01:06 PM. Reason: mistake

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15599

                  #9
                  Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                  Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                  The "H" on the piston is probably the size group and there should be some codes underneath to indicate the piston size for each cylinder. The pistons were installed with the block upside down. There were about four piston size groups, and one was selected based on bore measurement for each cylinder.

                  John Hinckley can probably provide more info.

                  Duke
                  The cylinder bore size codes were stamped on the oil pan rail while the case was upside down. I don't know what those codes were -- numbers or letters -- but they air-gauged the bore and lights on the machine told the operator what character to stamp on the rail near that bore. I would expect ALL small blocks from Flint to have these bore size stamps, and I would not be surprised that Tonawanda used a similar process.

                  Duke, I believe truck small blocks of this period also used four-bolt main bearing caps.
                  Terry

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43219

                    #10
                    Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                    Originally posted by Steven Gochenour (49707)
                    I believe other small blocks used 4 bolt main caps as well, not just LT-1's, I'd expect to see the same on my L-46. Steve

                    Steve-----


                    I did not say that other small blocks of the period did not use 4 bolt mains; I simply stated that all 1970-72 LT-1's were equipped with 4 bolt mains.

                    For 1969-70, all Corvette small blocks, base engine to LT-1, were equipped with 4 bolt mains. For the 71-72 period, some base engines may have been originally built with 4 bolt mains and some not.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Paul Y.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • September 30, 1982
                      • 570

                      #11
                      Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                      Joe, I figured that because of the December cast date. So would the 186 head of the 1970 engine up the compression? If so how much?
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                      • Paul Y.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • September 30, 1982
                        • 570

                        #12
                        Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                        Tim, Thank you. I found it in a sub division of Denver on the local craigslist. It had been in the seller garage since the 70's sometime. It came from Burt Chevrolet, known as a high performance parts dealership.
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                        • Paul Y.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • September 30, 1982
                          • 570

                          #13
                          Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                          Duke, the cam sprocket is nylon toothed.
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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43219

                            #14
                            Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                            Originally posted by Paul Young (5962)
                            Joe, I figured that because of the December cast date. So would the 186 head of the 1970 engine up the compression? If so how much?
                            Paul-----


                            Sort blocks for SERVICE were produced for 1970 LT-1 applications as late as 1975. So, the cast date of the short block does not imply whether it's for a 1970 or later LT-1. It's the short block assembly PART NUMBER that identifies it as well as features like piston configuration.

                            The 186 head would up the compression ratio of this short block to ABOUT 10:1.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Ronald L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • October 18, 2009
                              • 3248

                              #15
                              Re: 1970-71 Nos Lt1

                              What is important is what the casting date is...?

                              On those marks, as inspectors did their thing, it got a mark.

                              Terry, yes, I have seen them on the BB's from Tonawanda.

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