63 Spare tire lock pics

[Timothy B.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

I would like to see a close up pic of the anti rattle pad and what material it's made from.

I own a second week November car and have both a no hole and a .250" small hole lock, which one is correct.

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

Gary, My pad is the Long Island pad, that I've added to an original late November, .25 dia hole lock, with NO alteration to the pad. It seems to be close to the shape of the original pad in Mike McCagh's pics.

[Gary B.]

'63 Spare tire lock anti-rattle pad

...My pad is the Long Island pad ... with NO alteration to the pad

Michael,

Hmmm... I have a new LIC pad and it is substantially wider than the lock, so it hangs out over on two sides quite a bit. All original pads that I've seen are only slightly wider than or the same width as the lock. The LIC pad also has geometric features, like two angle-cut corners, that I've not seen on the original pads I've looked at. And all original pads I've seen have a central sloped area on the pad edge closest to where the bolt is captured. I'd like to see good close-up photos of several more original pads to get an idea of what is correct. But to me, the LIC pad has too many features that I haven't see in original pads, although I have to say that the few original pads I've seen potentially suffer from changes due to wear and tear with use and aging (as do we all).

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

...I own a second week November car and have both a no hole and a .250" small hole lock, which one is correct.

Tim,

Good question. I'm not aware of any comprehensive research data on this question. I think what people who are into spare tire locks will tell you is that the no-hole lock was no longer used in production by January of 1963. So, their use would be restricted to the Sept thru Dec '62 time period. I also believe (based on scant data the I have) that use of the 0.25" weep hole lock overlapped with the use of the no-hole lock during the very latter part of 1962. But I want to be clear, I don't think this question has been carefully researched, at least not by me.

Perhaps some other folks who know a bit about '63 tire locks, like Mike McCagh, Pete Lindahl, John Meissinger, Michael Hanson, or Jack Humphrey will chime in here. What say you, guys?

Gary

[Harry S.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

Gary, for the most part I agree with you. From what I have see, but can't prove, I believe the no-hole lock was phased out prior to December of 62, but who knows what lurked in the back of the parts bin?

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

A close-up pic of an original pad contour would be nice, if someone has one. I'm sure I can trim the pad to match. Thanks

[Gary B.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

A close-up pic of an original pad contour would be nice, if someone has one. I'm sure I can trim the pad to match. Thanks

Mike,

Here's a photo showing on the left a new LIC pad sitting on the bottom of a lock. To the right is what I believe to be an original early '63 lock with an original pad. The LIC pad appears to differ in several ways. It is too wide, the back two corners are angle cut, not rounded, and there is no 45 deg slope area on the near side at the center, closest to where the tire tub lock bolt is captured. I've seen a total of four original early '63 tire locks with anti-rattle pads and they all look nearly identical and none of them looks much like the LIC pad. Now I suppose all four original lock pads could have changed over the years, but my degree of suspicion that the LIC pad is not 100% correct is very high.

Mike, if you want, I can send you additional hi-res photos of the original pad, but they are too large to post here.

Gary

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

Thanks, Gary, my Long Island pad looks like yours. I'll trim it down to match your original and post a pic later today...

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

Gary, Here's the trimmed pad.

[Mike M.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

mike: the modified LIC pad still needs trimmed on a 45 degree angle as the pad faces the opening of the lock itself( where the pin resides).mike

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 Spare tire lock pics

Thanks, Mike, I'll get the Exacto out again...so far no stitches required

[Gary B.]

'63 Spare tire lock anti-rattle pad; photo of another original

Thanks, Mike, I'll get the Exacto out again...so far no stitches required

Mike,

I just got home from the Sacramento Regional and it just so happened that at the Regional I saw a very interesting, Bowtie-class, early '63 with what I think must be the original anti-rattle pad. Attached is a photo. It's a bit hard to tell due to condition, but that 45 degree slope on the edge closest to the pin is clearly present. It's more clear in real life than in my photo.

Also note in the photo that the plunger/pin that captures the head of the tire tub bolt is the type that is beveled at a 45 degree angle, not the more common type that has the 90 degree end. To the best of my knowledge the beveled pin end is only seen on '63 spare tire locks.

Gary

[John D.]

Re: '63 Spare tire lock anti-rattle pad; photo of another original

[quote=Gary Beaupre (28818);579074]Mike,

I just got home from the Sacramento Regional and it just so happened that at the Regional I saw a very interesting, Bowtie-class, early '63 with what I think must be the original anti-rattle pad. Attached is a photo. It's a bit hard to tell due to condition, but that 45 degree slope on the edge closest to the pin is clearly present. It's more clear in real life than in my photo.

Also note in the photo that the plunger/pin that captures the head of the tire tub bolt is the type that is beveled at a 45 degree angle, not the more common type that has the 90 degree end. To the best of my knowledge the beveled pin end is only seen on '63 spare tire locks.


The lock on my March 2nd 63 is identical to Gary's nice pic. The pad on my lock is original.
We went thru this a few years ago here as I recall. JD

[Gary B.]

Re: '63 Spare tire lock anti-rattle pad; photo of another original

...We went thru this a few years ago here as I recall. JD

John,

Yes, we did. I think the anti-rattle pad on your lock was the first original one I ever saw. Somehow I've misplaced my photo of yours.

Gary

[John D.]

Re: '63 Spare tire lock anti-rattle pad; photo of another original

John,

Yes, we did. I think the anti-rattle pad on your lock was the first original one I ever saw. Somehow I've misplaced my photo of yours.

Gary

Gary, Just recently I finally put the lock back on my 63. Wonder if those pics are in the archives here.