Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

[Dale M.]

I just happen to discover a product named "Mix-I-Go" that is a gas additive to preserve gas and prevent Ethanol damage. It sounds to good to be true and wanted to know if anyone has any experience with this product. I found it at the following web page:
WEB site address: http://shop.bellperformance.com/prod...FW8EQAodLE8oNQ

Dale Maris

[Ronald L.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

For every ailment you have there is a pill (or bottle) to fix it.

Add in the octane booster, the ROH fixer (this stuff), the lead substitute or real lead and what is your effective cost per gallon???

Just find some av gas or racing fuel and sleep at night.

Lead was not a good thing for engines; yes it was there for the valve seats, but then it would coat and cake up the valves, solid. So the gasoline companies had to ad another highly toxic compound to get the lead out.

Where does it stop?

I would need to see the cas #'s or MSDS sheets that will only "hint" at what is really in those bottles to know if they have discovered something new in chemistry or you will end up with more problems down the road.

You have to figure - you don't see the average Joe out there pouring this stuff in at the gas pumps so their target audience is us.

Where is their data from multiple engines over years of usage (mileage, like 10's of thousands)...that data is take on vehicle & engine tear down?

[Michael W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

For every ailment you have there is a pill (or bottle) to fix it.

Not to mention an even bigger selection of products that fix what's not at all broken. Most use the 'keeps bad things from happening' marketing angle to ward off problems that never would have occurred anyway.

[Jim D.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

Hey Mike, are you saying that the Sasquatch repellant I bought was a waste of money? So far, no sightings so it must work.

[Don W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

Jim...thank you for the very good morning laugh!!! Don

[Michael W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

Works as well as my elephant repellent it seems.

Here's their official sales video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJaUiMbHHDQ&feature=related

Not sure how much faith I'd put in a company that consistently spells it 'detergant' , promises to restore the 'original octane rating of the car' while stating that the owner can switch to a lower octane fuel all while delivering up to 12% or more of something. They mention that it 'eliminates water'. Where does it go?

[Stuart F.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

My APEX Pest Control service man told me this morning I should convert my 63 L-76 to operate on E85 as it equates to 105 Octane. He said they are building a plant here in Florida close by so availability should be no problem in the future. Now, the guy's an x racer on 1/4 ovals here in Florida and knows all the best performance engine builders in the state, so I will at least do some investigating about the subject before I laugh it off. Right now I don't even know what would need to be changed in the fuel system besides much larger jets, and I suppose hoses, gaskets and diaphragms, etc. If true (?), maybe there's some hope for the future, but I'm a sceptic.

Stu Fox

[Duke W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

You'll never pay back the investment in fuel savings (assuming you do it right and don't screw things up) unless you raise the CR to 12:1 to take advantage of the higher octane to achieve fuel savings due to higher compression.

Starting will be a problem, and you think fuel percolation in E10 is bad, think about how much worse it would be with E85.

All modern engines that can handle E85 are EFI so percolation is not an issue, but in the car mag tests I've seen, it actually costs MORE per mile to fuel with E85 than E10 in most markets.

Your pest control guy should stick to chasing termites.

Duke

[Michael W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

E85 as retailed at the pump is 94-96 AKI, not 105. Common myth, especially amongst bugs sprayers it seems.

[Stuart F.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

My son has a Tahoe that will take E85. He has only found a very few gas stations that handle it, usually when he's on the road. Last time was when he trailered his Vette up to Indianapolis and he tried to use it exclusively on one way. His MPG was something like 30% less with the E85. He got tired of stopping so often to fill up, and to search for a station that handled it.

Another good story I heard this past weekend at our local October Vettefest show here at Old Town (Kissimmee). This, as one might expect, some hearsay, but it sounded legit. A fellow NCRS member told me that a friend of his that works for the State and monitors compliance of weights and measures claims that our gas here in Florida actually is more like E11 to E14, and that the notice should read: "Contains at least 10% Ethanol" and "Not up to". I believe it because the latest (last) fill of premium pump gas had me checking my car for a gas leak. The smell in the garage, even days after it was last run, was awful! I just changed to my new 3461S AFB recently and, of course, looked at it inside out first. It is fine - no better or worse than my 3721SB. As soon as I run the tank down I'm headed to my local station that has the 93 Octane Unethanol!

Stu Fox

[Duke W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

I think straight ethanol is 105 RON which is about 100-101 PON, and I suspect the 15 percent gasoline consists of relatively low octane components, so the blend ends up in the mid-90s PON.

I don't think dual-fuel engines have greater CR than gasoline-only engines because they have to operate on anything from E0 to E85.

The current maximum ethanol content per EPA regulations is 10 percent by volume.

Violation of EPA regs can bring substantial civil penalties. Besides, ethanol costs more per BTU than gasoline so it is not in a blender's financial interest to exceed allowable ethanol.

These stories of more than 10 percent ethanol in various areas of the country are all over the Web, but, frankly, I don't believe them. Nothwithstading the violation of EPA regs, they don't make economic sense.

Duke

[Michael W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

But conspiracy theories and fantasy stories are more entertaining than the truth.

[Clem Z.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

I think straight ethanol is 105 RON which is about 100-101 PON, and I suspect the 15 percent gasoline consists of relatively low octane components, so the blend ends up in the mid-90s PON.

I don't think dual-fuel engines have greater CR than gasoline-only engines because they have to operate on anything from E0 to E85.

The current maximum ethanol content per EPA regulations is 10 percent by volume.

Violation of EPA regs can bring substantial civil penalties. Besides, ethanol costs more per BTU than gasoline so it is not in a blender's financial interest to exceed allowable ethanol.

These stories of more than 10 percent ethanol in various areas of the country are all over the Web, but, frankly, I don't believe them. Nothwithstading the violation of EPA regs, they don't make economic sense.

Duke

i would guess the fuel companies are not loosing $$$ with 10% ethanol fuel and since it lowers MPG don't they make more $$$ by selling car owners more fuel to go the same distance ???

[Dick W.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

. He said they are building a plant here in Florida close by so availability should be no problem in the future.

Stu Fox

Maybe they should look at the plant in Southern GA. The banks sure would like to unload it on someone. I think the Bankruptcy Court is about ready to sell it.

[Bruce B.]

Re: Mix-I-Go Concentrate Gasoline and Ethanol Treatment

For every ailment you have there is a pill (or bottle) to fix it.

Add in the octane booster, the ROH fixer (this stuff), the lead substitute or real lead and what is your effective cost per gallon???

Just find some av gas or racing fuel and sleep at night.

Lead was not a good thing for engines; yes it was there for the valve seats, but then it would coat and cake up the valves, solid. So the gasoline companies had to ad another highly toxic compound to get the lead out.

Where does it stop?

I would need to see the cas #'s or MSDS sheets that will only "hint" at what is really in those bottles to know if they have discovered something new in chemistry or you will end up with more problems down the road.

You have to figure - you don't see the average Joe out there pouring this stuff in at the gas pumps so their target audience is us.

Where is their data from multiple engines over years of usage (mileage, like 10's of thousands)...that data is take on vehicle & engine tear down?

Ron,
You are correct about the MSDS. It lists 92% Stodard solvent and 8% mystery ingredients. They don't want to give away thier secrets...