T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

[Domenic T.]

I am doing a frame up on my 67 and doing the mechanical on my 63 (next in line) as it is faster doing 2 at a time when doing the trans, alt, starter, WW motors, you know the drill.

A while back( 10 years) I bought some 63 parts from a guy that modified one to death years before and he had the parts left over.

In the parts I found this T 10 linkage. The rods were modified to fit something so I didn't get them in the 1st picture.

The 2nd pic is the other side with rods I found with the parts.

The 3rd pic is the munci linkage that was in my 63 and the mounting bracket.

I read in a post a while back that some 63's had the linkage bolted to the tail housing and some (muncies) used the bracket.

What do you see in the pictures.

DOM

[Timothy B.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Dom,

The third picture is a later model shifter with what looks like 64-up style rods but I am not certain.

The first picture is a 63 shifter with what looks like 63 rods from what I can tell.

I will forward you a email sent to me from Tracy Crisler with all the info about 63 shifters we need to know. Look at the pics in the email and see what you need for either Muncie of T-10 depending on what your 63 uses.

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Tim,
Thanks, for the info.

I was wondering if my 63 had an upgrade to use the bracket instead of bolting directly to the trans.

I did get a 62 dated T-10 from the guy I bought the parts from and that must be the linkage for it.

I bought the 63 in a farm yard for 150.00 less engine,trans, radiator, wheels & tires, and radio.

Believe it or not the guy was going to junk it.

It has left front damage and I got it in a basket as this guy put everything in a jeep that he took off the vette.

Truthfully I like the 63 more than my 67 with the 435/427 because every BB 67 is a target as a fake.

DOM

[Timothy B.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Dom,

Do some checking in the archives as the changeover to Muncie is somewhere around April -May 1963 so what's the serial # on the car.

Is the T-10 you own a T-10 D case (passenger side) as this would identify it as a 63 transmission. The front bearing retainer is smaller on all 63's either Muncie or B/W trans and they use the 421 bellhousing.

[Joe R.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

It doesn't matter when the changeover occured because NO 63 ever used a bracket for the shifter attached to the crossmember!

ALL 63's attached to the transmission including T-10's and Muncie's!!

For that matter all 64's attached to the transmission.

JR

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Tim,
30837S116075

I will look at what you sent me.

Joe,
I bought the car in 71 and the bracket was laying on the floor with the linkage.

Iremember reading something in a post about this.

DOM

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Tim,
Thanks for the E-mail.

DOM

[John H.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

ALL 63's attached to the transmission including T-10's and Muncie's!!

For that matter all 64's attached to the transmission.

JR

As did all 65's - the change to the crossmember-mounted shifter bracket occurred on March 22, 1966.

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Dom,

Do some checking in the archives as the changeover to Muncie is somewhere around April -May 1963 so what's the serial # on the car.

Is the T-10 you own a T-10 D case (passenger side) as this would identify it as a 63 transmission. The front bearing retainer is smaller on all 63's either Muncie or B/W trans and they use the 421 bellhousing.

Tim,

T10-7D
3813490 on tailshaft 11-13-62
Side cover 12-3-62

DOM

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Tim,

T10-7D
3813490 on tailshaft 11-13-62
Side cover 12-3-62

DOM

Tim,
I was able to fit the 63 linkage in the picture on the BW 4 speed trans I got with 63 parts I bought.

The levers were still on the trans but the trans has the large bearing retainer so it was probably for a passenger car.

The dates on the trans would be for a early 63 something.

The bracket in my pictures is not a vette C2 bracket as I matched it up with my 67 and it was different.

The bracket looks like it bolts to a cross member and the holes match the linkage, but much to wide for vette.

someone threw in some extra parts.

Before I get to deep in the stuff you sent, did I understand that the shifter is the same (other than the rods) for the BW & munci?

Do you think the shifter in the 1st & 2nd picture is from another GM application?

DOM

[William C.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

If it is a 7D case, it is the '63 case. There were some large bearing retainers that carried the small bolt circle for use in some applications. I'd look more closely before jumping to the large bearing conclusion. All t10-D cases were small bearing small bolt circle, but there were different diameter retainers for some applications. Did you look for a VIN stamp on the trans case?

[Tim S.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Sorry to hijack the thread. But, are 62 and 63 shifters the same?

Tim

[William C.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Not per the parts book, '62 P/N 3760702, '63 part number 3824815. Those are the shifter assembly only, no rods or misc parts, so they are not the same.

[Tom D.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Dom's third picture includes a bracket, probably number 3888263 from GM group number 4.010 (66-67).

Might be the taller 334943 "support" from same group for 68-79 (3 and 4 speed I think.) These are from a parts book dated June, 1979.

My early 1966 (from STL in October, 1965) had no such bracket.

td

[Domenic T.]

Re: T10 shift linkage, 63? Tim or Stu or whoever

Dom's third picture includes a bracket, probably number 3888263 from GM group number 4.010 (66-67).

Might be the taller 334943 "support" from same group for 68-79 (3 and 4 speed I think.) These are from a parts book dated June, 1979.

My early 1966 (from STL in October, 1965) had no such bracket.

td

Tom,
I thought the bracket was the same also but it is not the same as the 67 I have.

It is a bit taller and much wider at the base.

DOM