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  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #16
    Re: Shimming a starter required?

    Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
    I wonder if never using shims at the factory caused quality issues. Maybe there was a rework process to add shims for cars that had a problem?
    If there was a writeup for "noisy starter", it went up on a hoist and the starter was changed, and the starter went back to Delco-Remy for credit.

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    • Jim T.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1993
      • 5351

      #17
      Re: Shimming a starter required?

      Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
      If there was a writeup for "noisy starter", it went up on a hoist and the starter was changed, and the starter went back to Delco-Remy for credit.
      Reading my 1996 Corvette's service manual (book 2 of 2 Engine and Transmission) I saw today a picture on page 6-231 for starter motor replacement a pictured shim between the block and starter, none of the three mated together in the picture. It says in the narrative remove any shims and also replace any shims. I do not know if my 1996 original owner Corvette's starter is shimmed or not. Will have to look. Actually the picture I mentioned shows the long shim with holes for the two starter bolts and there is a very short piece that appears to me would fit on the pointed end of the long shim or it could be a shim for one bolt position.

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #18
        Re: Shimming a starter required?

        Originally posted by Jim Trekell (22375)
        Reading my 1996 Corvette's service manual (book 2 of 2 Engine and Transmission) I saw today a picture on page 6-231 for starter motor replacement a pictured shim between the block and starter, none of the three mated together in the picture. It says in the narrative remove any shims and also replace any shims. I do not know if my 1996 original owner Corvette's starter is shimmed or not. Will have to look. Actually the picture I mentioned shows the long shim with holes for the two starter bolts and there is a very short piece that appears to me would fit on the pointed end of the long shim or it could be a shim for one bolt position.
        Jim -

        I'm talking about the 60's-70's - don't know what they did in the 90's.

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        • Mark E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1993
          • 4536

          #19
          Re: Shimming a starter required?

          John,

          You know what they did in the 90s- Corvette quality increased with a focus on leaks, creaks, fit, finish... and starter shims!

          Oh yeah, GM continued to lose market share to the Japanese, lost billions and they almost went bankrupt...

          I remember an analyst saying back in the '90s that GM could have bought Toyota, Nissan and Honda outright- all three!- with the amount of money Roger Smith spent on still-born "lights out" automation technology and the myriad of reorganizations.
          Last edited by Mark E.; June 23, 2015, 11:23 AM.
          Mark Edmondson
          Dallas, Texas
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          1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
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          • Ray G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1986
            • 1189

            #20
            Re: Shimming a starter required?

            Hello;
            In addition to my previous posts on this subject, I don't recall shims on starters in the '60s on Chevrolet vehicles. But Chevrolet/GM dealer service departments rebuilt starters, consequently the original drive end housing was reused.
            I do recall shims on '50s Chevrolet with cast iron bell housing standard shift cars.
            I thinking shimming starters came along when aftermarket drive end housing came into the market.
            Hope this helps.
            Ray
            And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
            I hope you dance


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