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  • Wayne W.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1982
    • 3605

    #16
    Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

    Originally posted by Robert Gallagher (17477)
    Wayne,
    What I've got for St. L and A.O. Smith coupes and convertibles adds up to 23,125 when actually on 22,940 cars were produced. My highest number is about 130 from the end, so we're talking over a 200 car discrepancy.
    The long lost ( er found ) SB BB hood cars.

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    • Gerard F.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 2004
      • 3803

      #17
      Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

      Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
      I find it interesting that the car's VIN plate (194677S120382) says it was produced off the line at St. Louis on June 8th (the same day as my A.O. Smith roadster, #120401, body built J24, May 24th), but the trim tag says the body was built in Ionia on K27, June27th, three weeks after the car left St. Louis.
      John,

      Sure looks like a fake trim tag, if the VIN is 20382. My 67 AO Smith roadster is VIN 22049 and has a body build of K15, assembly date of June 29. One would expect that a K27 body build at AOS, would have early to mid July assembly date and VIN.

      Looks like someone is imagining or wishing that this car was the last AO Smith body, and I could believe that K27 is probably right. But the VIN and other date codes (engine block, transmission, rear end) will tell the true story.
      Jerry Fuccillo
      1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • November 30, 1997
        • 16513

        #18
        Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

        Originally posted by Gerard Fuccillo (42179)
        John,

        Sure looks like a fake trim tag, if the VIN is 20382. My 67 AO Smith roadster is VIN 22049 and has a body build of K15, assembly date of June 29. One would expect that a K27 body build at AOS, would have early to mid July assembly date and VIN.

        Looks like someone is imagining or wishing that this car was the last AO Smith body, and I could believe that K27 is probably right. But the VIN and other date codes (engine block, transmission, rear end) will tell the true story.
        Jerry -

        This story is about to get a whole lot more interesting - stay tuned.

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        • Wayne W.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1982
          • 3605

          #19
          Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

          You can see the extra holes drilled, and the corner of the tag over part of the hole. Pretty obvious it has been replaced.

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          • John H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • November 30, 1997
            • 16513

            #20
            Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

            The car has been withdrawn from the upcoming auction (by the auction company) due to concerns brought to their attention over the authenticity of the car's VIN identification.

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            • Robert R.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 1975
              • 358

              #21
              Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

              After looking at the picture of this car's trim tag, noticed that for the Interior Trim "STD" is followed by a period.
              Looking at the C2 Registry, there are pictures of 67 tags with and without the period after STD.
              Is there a reason for this having occured?

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              • Gerard F.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 2004
                • 3803

                #22
                Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                Another thing--

                I looked at the picture of the Glove Box signed by Noland Adams and compared it with my signed copy of his Restoration Guide. He signed my copy in felt tip pen about 8" across.

                In comparision, and in my opinion, the signature on the glove box is not Noland's.

                There is something real fishy here.
                Jerry Fuccillo
                1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • November 30, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #23
                  Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                  Originally posted by Robert Ricchio (599)
                  After looking at the picture of this car's trim tag, noticed that for the Interior Trim "STD" is followed by a period.
                  Looking at the C2 Registry, there are pictures of 67 tags with and without the period after STD.
                  Is there a reason for this having occured?
                  That's very common - some had the ".", and some didn't, from both St. Louis and A.O. Smith; the tags were typed manually, not by computers.

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                  • Scott S.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 28, 1979
                    • 747

                    #24
                    Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                    NCRS shipping report data to the rescue. The last A O Smith Roadster was actually produced as a Coupe when it left St. Louis. It is amazing what you can learn when you use the correct tools at our disposal.
                    In addition, We found two A O Smith Roadsters with serial numbers higher than 20382. A big thank you to Roy Sinor and Mark Lincoln.
                    Have a great day!

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                    • Wayne M.
                      Expired
                      • February 29, 1980
                      • 6414

                      #25
                      Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                      Originally posted by Scott Sinclair (2379)
                      ...., We found two A O Smith Roadsters with serial numbers higher than 20382. A big thank you to Roy Sinor and Mark Lincoln.......
                      And there's a lot more Dow Smith convertible bodies than that among the last 2500 or so '67 VIN's: here's a sampling.

                      22374, A- 4574, K21
                      22846, A- 4972, K27
                      22938, A- 4884, unknown, but probably K26, a Monday in June.

                      P.S. would you care to elucidate a little on your first paragraph ?

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                      • Robert R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1975
                        • 358

                        #26
                        Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                        Ooo, that let's a bit of air out of that particular balloon...
                        It is nice to see how the available information can verify things.

                        So just how far to the end of the production is that Coupe?
                        No need to say the exact number, just curious as to where the AO Smith bodies were at, or near the end of the model run.

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                        • Scott S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • February 28, 1979
                          • 747

                          #27
                          Re: Unique trim tag - Last AOS '67

                          Wayne, In my day, Elucidate is a trance band with the Lucid Dream Mix series.
                          To be more specific to the Last AO Smith Roadster. The GM shipping order states that it is a Coupe delivered to a dealer in Detroit, MI. Therefore something may be amiss.
                          Scott

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