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  • Tom P.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1980
    • 1814

    #16
    Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

    Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)
    These low number plenums were typically used for testing and a few of them made it out of the factory on cars. I am just trying to get an idea of how many of them are out there.


    If by chance you know of any of the early units used on race cars, they are of interest too. Grand Sport #004, and the gulf oil cars had modified units along with a bunch of other race cars. Any pictures or information on these experimental units are of interest as well.
    This is a unit from one of the Gulf cars that was modified for dual air meters.
    John Eyestone had it on display for sale at the NCRS Natls at Shangri La back in the 90s. Sorry, these are the only pictures I have (never figured 15-20yrs later someone would want details of the unit) and I have NO CLUE what the status is of the unit today.








    I also have a few pictures of a dual air meter unit on a Cheetah if you're interested.

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    • Bob J.
      Very Frequent User
      • December 1, 1977
      • 714

      #17
      Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

      Originally posted by Tom Parsons (3491)
      This is a unit from one of the Gulf cars that was modified for dual air meters.
      John Eyestone had it on display for sale at the NCRS Natls at Shangri La back in the 90s. Sorry, these are the only pictures I have (never figured 15-20yrs later someone would want details of the unit) and I have NO CLUE what the status is of the unit today.








      I also have a few pictures of a dual air meter unit on a Cheetah if you're interested.
      Interesting, that plenum appears to be a 64 or 65 plenum with the front boss tapped. Bob

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      • Michael H.
        Expired
        • January 29, 2008
        • 7477

        #18
        Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

        Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
        Interesting, that plenum appears to be a 64 or 65 plenum with the front boss tapped. Bob
        Good catch. I didn't notice the front boss.

        There were quite a few of those dual air meter units floating around in the mid/late 60's. Nickey Chev in Chicago sold the complete setup in their catalogue for several years.

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        • Tom P.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1980
          • 1814

          #19
          Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

          Here's the Cheetah with dual air meters. I have no clue who this belongs to.










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          • Bob J.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1977
            • 714

            #20
            Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

            Michael,
            I never knew Nickey sold them but that makes sense because there were a bunch of them for sale in the seventies.
            I think a unit like that, or that exact one, showed up on ebay about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
            They sure "look" great. Bob

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #21
              Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

              Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
              Michael,
              I never knew Nickey sold them but that makes sense because there were a bunch of them for sale in the seventies.
              I think a unit like that, or that exact one, showed up on ebay about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
              They sure "look" great. Bob
              I remember seeing several for sale years ago too. No one wanted them 30 years ago.

              Ralph Salyer told me the dual air meter unit on his Cheeta didn't run well. He said he probably would have been better off using a conventional single air meter.

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              • Steven B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 1982
                • 3989

                #22
                Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                Did Bill Thomas build all of the dual meter units, Nickey units included, or were there others?

                Thanks for the pics and info!

                Steve

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                • John D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 1, 1979
                  • 5507

                  #23
                  Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                  Originally posted by Steven Brohard (5759)
                  Did Bill Thomas build all of the dual meter units, Nickey units included, or were there others?

                  Thanks for the pics and info!

                  Steve
                  Steve, When I was a kid Gulf Research in Monroeville, PA was famous for building dual air meter 63 FI's.
                  The John Eyestone unit was on display and forsale at the NCRS national in Warren, MI in earl 90's. He wanted 3600 or 3700 for it. Poor John couldn't give it away as I recall. I will always miss him. John

                  Nice pics Jorjorian.

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                  • Monte M.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 1991
                    • 687

                    #24
                    Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                    Thanks,
                    IBob, I do not know if you can tell in these pictures of not, but the baseplate is a later one with the "W" on the water jacket out front. Making it sometime after mid 63.
                    I have a handful of pictures of the Cheeta, but the pictures with the engine were not as good as yours. As far as the pictures of the unit for sale. I have those. I actually think I got them from you at a previuos time.
                    I also have picture of what looks like the same unit being tested at Gulf Oil way back in the day.
                    I actually have a few pictures of that unit at Gulf Oil, with different versions of injection that they tried on the top of it over the years. It went through many variatiions.
                    I also have pictures of the same test engine, at Gulf Oil, with a variety of other contraptions on it.
                    Plus, there is the earlier unit with the dual air-meters on the side.
                    John, I still have not learned how to post a picture.
                    Bottom Line,
                    Thank You for the pictures.
                    Monte
                    Last edited by Monte M.; September 8, 2011, 04:38 PM.

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                    • Tom P.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1980
                      • 1814

                      #25
                      Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                      I presume (NO, you don't spell it the same as assume!) everyone is familiar with Rich Mason's SR2 with the EARLY dual air meter unit (side mounted air meters). I have several pictures, but does anyone else have a collection of pictures of Rich's unit, or any other EARLY (57-62) dual air meter FI unit? I'd LOVE to see them, and, converse with any owners of dual air meter units (that are driven!!!!!!!).
                      I'd REALLY, REALLY love to convert the unit on the 56 to a dual meter unit.
                      Oh DANG, I forgot, this is the NCRS site---------------where only correct originality is supposed to be spoken! Sorry.

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #26
                        Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                        Would 63 FI unit #1001 look something like this?
                        Last edited by Michael H.; September 10, 2011, 01:17 PM.

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                        • Jerry G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1985
                          • 1022

                          #27
                          Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                          Originally posted by Tom Parsons (3491)
                          I presume (NO, you don't spell it the same as assume!) everyone is familiar with Rich Mason's SR2 with the EARLY dual air meter unit (side mounted air meters). I have several pictures, but does anyone else have a collection of pictures of Rich's unit, or any other EARLY (57-62) dual air meter FI unit? I'd LOVE to see them, and, converse with any owners of dual air meter units (that are driven!!!!!!!).
                          I'd REALLY, REALLY love to convert the unit on the 56 to a dual meter unit.
                          Oh DANG, I forgot, this is the NCRS site---------------where only correct originality is supposed to be spoken! Sorry.

                          GO FOR IT TOM! Have fun. Jerry

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                          • Monte M.
                            Expired
                            • January 1, 1991
                            • 687

                            #28
                            Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                            Mickael,
                            As I learned earlier today, I may not be the person to ask, but it looks pretty correct. Does it have the nozzle block recess? The space below the black injector blocks where you can see about a 1/4" of the bolt coming through?

                            And Tom, You own the car, you do whtever you want. Sometimes it is nice to be a little different.

                            Monte

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                            • Steven B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 30, 1982
                              • 3989

                              #29
                              Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                              Originally posted by John DeGregory (2855)
                              Steve, When I was a kid Gulf Research in Monroeville, PA was famous for building dual air meter 63 FI's.
                              The John Eyestone unit was on display and forsale at the NCRS national in Warren, MI in earl 90's. He wanted 3600 or 3700 for it. Poor John couldn't give it away as I recall. I will always miss him. John

                              Nice pics Jorjorian.
                              Thanks John! 'Back in '69 I was at Elkhart Lake and was fortunate to meet a Gulf engineer who helped design the velocity stacks for the McLarens. He mentioned that some fellow engineer had worked on Corvette FI units years before.

                              Steve

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                              • Michael H.
                                Expired
                                • January 29, 2008
                                • 7477

                                #30
                                Re: F.I Plunum Serial #1 through #50 Do You Have One?

                                Originally posted by Monte Marin (18651)
                                Mickael,
                                As I learned earlier today, I may not be the person to ask, but it looks pretty correct. Does it have the nozzle block recess? The space below the black injector blocks where you can see about a 1/4" of the bolt coming through?
                                Monte
                                It has all the early features that a VERY early unit would have. Recess under the nozzle blocks, no chrome on tubes, wire vacuum advance tube support, 1st design silver throttle return spring etc etc.

                                The adapter has the casting/part number OVER the old number for 62, just like my school unit.
                                Last edited by Michael H.; November 21, 2011, 05:13 PM.

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