'67 VIN Locations

[Floyd B.]

I might be crazy but I plan on purchasing this basket case tomorrow. It's in rough shape and has many shortcomings but all-in-all it has much going for it and I couldn't pass it up for the price I got. Most of the major components and exterior trim are there. According to the current owner, the 327/365hp engine and 4-speed are out of a '65. The rest of the drive train and suspension are in tact (it looks like it might have a big block suspension). All the glass is present with no chips or cracks.

One of the major shortcomings is the lack of any documentation. The car will be purchased on a bill of sale. The interior is (except for some dash pieces) missing and the VIN plate is long gone. I did a bit of research and it appears that finding the last known title and/or getting a new title is possible but I would need to find proof of a VIN. I know very little about C2's but seem to recall the following possible locations for the VIN. Help correcting and completing this list would be very much appreciated. The more possible locations to find the VIN, the better my chances:

- It is possible that the build sheet is still attached to the top of the fuel tank. That would be like finding a diamond but I can't count on it.
- Stamped on the top of the driver side frame rail about half-way between the front and rear wheel openings
- Stamped the top horizontal surface of the frame rail in the driver's side rear wheel opening, centered on the front edge of the #4 body mount bracket

Has anyone else been in this situation? If so, were you successful in obtaining a new title? I see that there a legal services firms that specialize in finding/obtaining titles, does anyone have experience with any of these firms?

Thanx,

-Floyd-

[Robert G.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

The build sheet has no VIN information. There are 2 stamps on the driver's side frame rail by the seat and inside the rear wheel well. I've never been able to find mine, you may have better luck. That's your only shot at finding a vin.
If you have a trim tag, I could give a guess about the vin range.

[William C.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Don't walk, RUN away. In some (many) states it would be treated as a stolen vehicle or at best a "kit" car.

[Gary C.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd,

Bill's recommendation is a good one. Check the Florida State Laws about titling a car without a VIN tag. It's a BIG DEAL in most states!

Secondly, before you pay for the basket case. Find the VIN # on the frame rail and run it though Florida DMV to make sure it's not a stolen car.

If it's stolen, you're out money and the basket case could be seized.

JMTCW,

Gary
....

[John H.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd -

Is the seller "Rusty Eddie"?

[Floyd B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd,

Bill's recommendation is a good one. Check the Florida State Laws about titling a car without a VIN tag. It's a BIG DEAL in most states!

Secondly, before you pay for the basket case. Find the VIN # on the frame rail and run it though Florida DMV to make sure it's not a stolen car.

If it's stolen, you're out money and the basket case could be seized.

JMTCW,

Gary
....

As a test would a Florida owner of a C2 be kind enough to run thier VIN through this FL DMV web site and let me know if it works?

https://services.flhsmv.gov/MVCheckWeb/

Thanx

[Tom H.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

As a test would a Florida owner of a C2 be kind enough to run thier VIN through this FL DMV web site and let me know if it works?

https://services.flhsmv.gov/MVCheckWeb/

Thanx

Floyd: Yes. This site does work.

[Floyd B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd -

Is the seller "Rusty Eddie"?

John,

I sent you a private message.

Thanx

[Steven B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd, good advice given by those above. A friend in Indianapolis bought a Z car years ago without VIN in sight. After he tried to license it he was advised by state police it was a stolen vehicle. Long story short it was returned to the owner from which it was stolen and he was out the purchase price.

Steve

[Floyd B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Thanks Tom. I'll run the VIN through this site as soon as I get it to make sure I don't get any nasty hits but even if I don't, it doesn't mean I wouldn't get a hit in another state. My risk is rather low in this deal. Even if re-titling the vehicle doesn't work out, I'll still have a pile of parts worth more than I paid. So I could combine it with another "clean" donor car, sell off the parts, or use it for a resto-mod project.

[Gary C.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Floyd,

Check the NCIB https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck

Let me share with you the worse case scenario as Steve Brohard eluded to; the authorities can seize any and every car part you don't have a receipt for or can prove you legally purchased or any and all unregistered cars. Plus then run you through the Grand Jury system as being a reseller of stolen cars and/or parts. It can get real nasty real quick, if you're not careful. And you'd be the one in the barrel.

Forewarned is forearmed. JMTCW,

Gary
....

[Tom H.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

I am sure there is a good reason to remove the VIN from a car, but I just can't think what it would be. I'd say maybe not all, but most cars without a VIN have a hidden tale to be told. I love finding history on cars, but a no VIN car probably has history I don't want to know.

[Keith B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

When he first drug this car around it was a shell that looked like it came from a lake bed. Then every time I saw it again more parts were added. So run

[Norris W.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Since it doesn't have the original engine, in the best case scenario all you have MAYBE is a bare chassis with a legit VIN number and then the possibilities are downhill from there. Every other piece could be from a stolen car or cars. In some states it is illegal to possess a car with the Vin plate removed unless you have salvage title documentation. I wouldn't allow it in my garage if it was free. The risk is great and the potential for reward very narrow.

[William B.]

Re: '67 VIN Locations

Did NCRS ever have a 1967 VIN registery? Kinda remember in the 80's they had them for other models??