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  • Dan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 5, 2008
    • 1323

    T10 Transmission

    Has anyone had experience using the B/W T10 rebuild kit from Corvette Central? It has the cross shaft, needle bearings, gaskets, seals, syncro rings, etc. Bet the bearings are China. I am looking at buying one.
    Thanks, -Dan-
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5183

    #2
    Re: T10 Transmission

    Dan,

    I can't comment on the CC kit but before you buy call Larry at D&L transmission and get a price on a kit with all American made parts. Larry is a great guy and I think he will treat you right..

    He will also help you determine if you need any other important parts like gears etc. When I did mine, I replaced both first/second and third/forth slider but Larry suggested a torque lock slider for first/second.

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    • Tom P.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1980
      • 1814

      #3
      Re: T10 Transmission

      I've been building 4spds (mostly Muncies) for over 40yrs.
      I've been doing business with Larry Fischer of D & L Transmissions for over 30yrs. http://www.dandltransmission.com/
      I buy all my 4sp parts from Larry!

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      • Jim D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 1985
        • 2883

        #4
        Re: T10 Transmission

        Tim & Tom answered your question. Get good quality parts from a known supplier. Those "kits" are usually made up of cheap, foreign parts allowing the low price.

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        • Dan D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 5, 2008
          • 1323

          #5
          Re: T10 Transmission

          Thanks guys. I looked on the D&L website and will contact them today.
          -Dan-

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          • Scott K.
            Frequent User
            • February 1, 1980
            • 59

            #6
            Re: T10 Transmission

            Originally posted by Dan Dillingham (49672)
            Has anyone had experience using the B/W T10 rebuild kit from Corvette Central? It has the cross shaft, needle bearings, gaskets, seals, syncro rings, etc. Bet the bearings are China. I am looking at buying one.
            Thanks, -Dan-
            Just an FYI: our bearings are sourced from Japan (can't source them from a US vendor anymore) and are graded per SAE standard load specs. The kit has a countershaft as well.
            Corvette Central
            800-345-4122
            www.corvettecentral.com

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: T10 Transmission

              Scott is right, even though they may come in Timken, BCA, Bower, etc boxes, the best bearings come from Japan now.
              Dick Whittington

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              • Tom P.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1980
                • 1814

                #8
                Re: T10 Transmission

                Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                Scott is right, even though they may come in Timken, BCA, Bower, etc boxes, the best bearings come from Japan now.
                Let me just make a comment/observation about Jap bearings.
                When was the last time you saw a failed bearing on a Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc, etc??? And if you DID see a failed Jap bearing, just how many miles were on the bearing?
                True, I MUCH PREFER to have genuine American made products, but in lieu of that, I at least want a product that is going to be durable and long lasting and I personally haven't seen any issues in recent years with Jap bearings.

                The jury is still out on Chinese bearings-----------------------and other products.
                I recently ordered, and received yesterday, 3 pieces of 56-57 exhaust chrome from CC. The wrappers say "Made in Taiwan". DAMN, THEY LOOK GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43211

                  #9
                  Re: T10 Transmission

                  Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                  Scott is right, even though they may come in Timken, BCA, Bower, etc boxes, the best bearings come from Japan now.
                  Dick and Scott-----


                  I agree. The Japanese-manufactured bearings are the best bearings available in the world and it's been that way for quite some time now. In fact, the last available main bearings from Delco for Muncie transmissions were made in Japan. I have many original USA-manufactured Muncie bearings [none for sale]. However, when I do a Muncie transmission I prefer to use the Japan-manufactured Delco bearings.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Dan D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 5, 2008
                    • 1323

                    #10
                    Re: T10 Transmission

                    Originally posted by Scott Kohn (3030)
                    Just an FYI: our bearings are sourced from Japan (can't source them from a US vendor anymore) and are graded per SAE standard load specs. The kit has a countershaft as well.
                    Hi Scott.
                    I agree Japanese bearings are good. I am just leery of Chinese made bearings is all. After I got my transmission apart I found I needed more parts than what was included in any rebuild kit (like the mainshaft and first gear), plus I had several questions so I contacted the rebuilding shop recommended to me on this forum. He supplied all the parts I needed, plus good advice and an exploded view diagram of the transmission assembly which will help me put it back together correctly.
                    FYI, his bearings are SKF, but the box also says Auto Gear Company. So Auto Gear (whoever they are) make the bearings for SKF. But they are made in USA.
                    How many balls do your bearings have? OE bearings have 8 balls, the SKF bearings have 11.
                    Scott, in the last 3 years I have bought several thousand dollars worth of parts from Corvette Central, and I am about to place another order. Some of the parts I have had to rework and even throw some in the garbage, so I am leery of all repro stuff. In your defense, you have the best web site, and your delivery and service is superb.
                    I don't expect repro parts to be completely correct. They are not made from the original tooling, there are sometimes patent/copyright issues, and original materials may no longer be available. Even some NOS stuff is not correct as they quite often are service replacement parts, or manufactured at a later date with different tooling. What I do expect is that repro parts fit without reworking, and that they will work as intended. Most of the time this is true, but not always. Also, some fittings and things are metric, which is not keeping with the character of these old Corvettes. -Dan-

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: T10 Transmission

                      Originally posted by Dan Dillingham (49672)
                      FYI, his bearings are SKF, but the box also says Auto Gear Company. So Auto Gear (whoever they are) make the bearings for SKF. But they are made in USA.
                      Dan -

                      Auto Gear is in Syracuse, New York, and has been a major manufacturer and supplier of Muncie and T-10 parts for decades; they also manufacture the Muncie "SuperCase", which is a much stronger direct replacement for original Muncie cases. They don't manufacture bearings - SKF does; SKF is one of the largest bearing manufacturers in the world.

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                      • Dan D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 5, 2008
                        • 1323

                        #12
                        Re: T10 Transmission

                        Thanks John. Good info for my continuing education (at age 70). The point is you can still get USA made bearings, and these are 11 balls - not 8. The other point is given the amount of miles and abuse this tranny will see from now on out, it probably doesn't much difference what bearing is in it. Its not like when they were new and we were all kids with that tremendous thirst for power (that still exists somewhat). -Dan-

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