Novi 70-72 Flight Judged Cars

[Alan S.]

Hi,
Here are the 8 cars presented for Flight Judging in Novi.
8 Wonderful cars, and Friendly owners!
Rergards,
Alan

[Don L.]

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Thanks Alan. Is that red one for sale? I really like it

I enjoyed catching up with you again and appreciate your help and advice shared. I further hope that you enjoyed your visit and hope that all your memories of the event are favorable.

I look forward to seeing you again soon.

[Keith S.]

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Any chance that Ontario Orange 1970 is for sale?

I think the only exterior differences from 1970-1972 are the 1972 amber lights and the tire options. From the pics I think the car years are as follows:

Ontario Orange - 1970
Red - 1972
Blue - 1971
Green - Guessing 1970 because of Goodyears?

[Don L.]

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Any chance that Ontario Orange 1970 is for sale?

I think the only exterior differences from 1970-1972 are the 1972 amber lights and the tire options. From the pics I think the car years are as follows:

Ontario Orange - 1970
Red - 1972
Blue - 1971
Green - Guessing 1970 because of Goodyears?

Hi Keith.

The Ontario Orange LT1 in this post is a 1971. 1970's had a different shade of orange. This car still has its original owner - also a BG Gold and Survivor.

The Mille Miglia Red convertible is indeed a '72. It's mine.

The Mulsanne Blue car is a '70 LT1.

The Green one is a '70 also. Goodyears don't give it away, the one year-only Donnybrooke Green color does. Goodyears were available on all new '70-'72's. There are numerous minor differences between '70, '71 and '72 Corvettes. Colors, side grille detail, front grille detail, and tail light lens detail to mention a few. Perhaps someone will continue this list, as there are more, especially when you move to the interior and engine configs.

[Kenneth B.]

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Hi Keith.

The Ontario Orange LT1 in this post is a 1971. 1970's had a different shade of orange. This car still has its original owner - also a BG Gold and Survivor.

The Mille Miglia Red convertible is indeed a '72. It's mine.

The Mulsanne Blue car is a '70 LT1.

The Green one is a '70 also. Goodyears don't give it away, the one year-only Donnybrooke Green color does. Goodyears were available on all new '70-'72's. There are numerous minor differences between '70, '71 and '72 Corvettes. Colors, side grille detail, front grille detail, and tail light lens detail to mention a few. Perhaps someone will continue this list, as there are more, especially when you move to the interior and engine configs.

There was no orange 1970 Corvettes. The had bronze instead.
KEN

[Keith S.]

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That was a nice learning experience. Also, I didn't know that the Ontario Orange had a different shade from 1970 to 1971.

Specifically for the LT-1 cars, was there a different tire option for each year or could you get either the Goodyears or Firestones?

[Terry M.]

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That was a nice learning experience. Also, I didn't know that the Ontario Orange had a different shade from 1970 to 1971.

Specifically for the LT-1 cars, was there a different tire option for each year or could you get either the Goodyears or Firestones?

For any 1968 to 1972 Corvette you had a choice of only the tire sidewall style -- black wall, white wall or raised white letters. You had NO choice of brand which could have been Firestone or Goodyear, and in some limited cases US Royal, but the brand was dictated by the supply at St Louis.

[Kenneth H.]

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They're all beautiful corvettes. I was just wondering about the paint. They all look great, but they look awful shiny (especially the red and the blue). Did they actually look that good when they arrived from the factory? Is the paint used on those 'vettes lacquer or two stage? Any deducts taken?

Thanks

[Ed D.]

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Ken,
If you are talking about the 72 targa blue coupe, the rear paint is original and the rest of the paint is matched very well. I think that I recieved all originality points [if I remember correctly], but did recieve some deductions in condition. I know the paint is original as I purchased the car new.
Ed

[Kenneth H.]

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Ed,

Nice 'vette. The reason that I asked was because of all of the past posts here that discussed paint. I got the distinct impression from those posts that the original paint on early '70s corvettes really wasn't that good and to see the paint job on these cars kind of startled me. I was just wondering if they were penalized for over restoration as concerns the exceptional paint.

Thanks.

[Don L.]

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If you look again at the photos, I think you'll (at least somewhat) see that due to the lighting, EVERYTHING appears shinier than actual. Look at the cars in the background. Look at the floor. You can clearly see the lighting fixtures and just how many there are.

All that said, my car (the red one) received the standard minimum deduction for over-restoration. I was happy to yield these points - I am happy with the finish as presented.

[Terry M.]

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You probably need to see pictures of the Bowtie cars, and there were plenty of them there. Only the judges and owners know if any car received a deduction for anything -- paint engine, whatever. On the other hand you can be sure that a car that receives a Bowtie Award has no paint issues of any consequence.

[Kenneth H.]

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I'd love to see an example that has been judged as "just right" for factory finish so that I can prepare my '70 properly for judging, when that time comes. I'm not criticizing the judging process, and the cars look great, I just want to know exactly what is correct when talking about paint finish for a restored car. And yes, I have seen all of the earlier posts on paint and even after all of that, I'm still not sure.

Thanks.

[Patrick H.]

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Too bad you weren't at the National. We had 2 different paint seminars, and the second session of the impromptu "What is correct Ontario Orange" paint discussion as well. All were quite informative.

[Kenneth H.]

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Patrick,

Yes, I think that's what I need to do. That way I'll be able to see the paint "in person" rather than rely on pictures that aren't always representative of the way the paint actually looks.

Thanks,

Ken