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  • Ron R.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 31, 1993
    • 190

    Electric Choke

    Is It Safe To Attach The Red Wire To The Ballast Or Should I Go Directly To The Fuse Box?

    Ron
  • Stuart F.
    Expired
    • August 31, 1996
    • 4676

    #2
    Re: Electric Choke

    I believe the directions with mine said to not use the engine ignition circuit as a source for switched power. As such, and I believe they recommended, I attached mine to the ignition switched circuit of the windshield wiper motor. I merely located which wire to the WW motor was hot with the ignition switch ON and tapped into it. Others may have a different approach depending on the unit youy are using.

    Stu Fox

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    • Ron R.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 31, 1993
      • 190

      #3
      Re: Electric Choke

      Thanks Stuart,

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      • John D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 30, 1979
        • 5507

        #4
        Re: Electric Choke

        Ron, You didn't say what the choke was for. I assume it's not FI because of the red wire.
        Typical local of an electric choke wire is the 12V side of the BR. John

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        • Stuart F.
          Expired
          • August 31, 1996
          • 4676

          #5
          Re: Electric Choke

          It would be helpful to know what electric choke you are dealing with, i.e. OEM or aftermarket, F.I. or carbureted, etc. Mine is an aftermarket unit with thermal sensor mounted on the intake manifold. The directions explicitly state NOT to use the switched engine ignition circuit, be it at the coil or ballast resistor. Now that is the one I have and I'm sure they had their reasons (that surprised me too as I could understand if it were a 12v vs. 8v matter). Yours may be different, such as Edelbrock or others. For lack of no other specific instructions, I felt safer connecting it as I did at the WW motor 12v switched hot wire.

          Stu Fox

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          • Ron R.
            Very Frequent User
            • May 31, 1993
            • 190

            #6
            Re: Electric Choke

            Sorry for being so vague, the choke is for an Elderbrock carb, I believe the number is 1406, which is aftermarket.

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Electric Choke

              Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
              Sorry for being so vague, the choke is for an Elderbrock carb, I believe the number is 1406, which is aftermarket.
              Ron -

              The Edelbrock instructions say not to use the coil or alternator as the power source:

              Edelbrock is the most respected name in performance! Since 1938, Edelbrock has manufactured its core products in the USA for quality and performance.


              The ignition switch side of the ballast resistor is an ignition-switched 12V source, as is the "IGN" cavity in the fuse block.

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              • Clem Z.
                Expired
                • December 31, 2005
                • 9427

                #8
                Re: Electric Choke

                Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
                I believe the directions with mine said to not use the engine ignition circuit as a source for switched power. As such, and I believe they recommended, I attached mine to the ignition switched circuit of the windshield wiper motor. I merely located which wire to the WW motor was hot with the ignition switch ON and tapped into it. Others may have a different approach depending on the unit youy are using.

                Stu Fox
                they don't want you to use the coil + wire because it is not a full 12 volts except when cranking the engine and the choke will not open correctly

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                • Philip A.
                  Expired
                  • February 25, 2008
                  • 329

                  #9
                  Re: Electric Choke

                  A lot of hot rodders tend to use the power supply to the wiper motor

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                  • Ron R.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • May 31, 1993
                    • 190

                    #10
                    Re: Electric Choke

                    How About If I Use The Hot Side On The Windshield Wiper Motor?

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                    • Clem Z.
                      Expired
                      • December 31, 2005
                      • 9427

                      #11
                      Re: Electric Choke

                      Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
                      How About If I Use The Hot Side On The Windshield Wiper Motor?
                      use your DVM and find a full 12 volt connection that is ignition controlled,ignition off zero volts,ignition on full 12 volts. the factory electric choke power went thru the oil pressure switch so no 12 volts till the engine started and you had oil pressure. this was done so if someone turn on the ignition and did not try and start the engine for a while the choke would still be closed when they started the engine

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                      • Ron R.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1993
                        • 190

                        #12
                        Re: Electric Choke

                        Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                        use your DVM and find a full 12 volt connection that is ignition controlled,ignition off zero volts,ignition on full 12 volts. the factory electric choke power went thru the oil pressure switch so no 12 volts till the engine started and you had oil pressure. this was done so if someone turn on the ignition and did not try and start the engine for a while the choke would still be closed when they started the engine
                        Hi Clem, I assume the DVM you refer to is a VOLT METER, am I correct?

                        Ron,

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                        • Clem Z.
                          Expired
                          • December 31, 2005
                          • 9427

                          #13
                          Re: Electric Choke

                          Originally posted by Ron Reeves (22763)
                          Hi Clem, I assume the DVM you refer to is a VOLT METER, am I correct?

                          Ron,
                          yep Digital Volt Meter. i only type with 2 fingers so i keep it as short as possible.

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                          • Stuart F.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 1996
                            • 4676

                            #14
                            Re: Electric Choke

                            Clem;

                            When you refer to an oil pressure switch, I trust you are talking about some years newer than our C-2's, at least newer than my 63. I would love to have one, but I guess I have to make due with a gauge only.

                            Your advice on using a meter is good. One should always check a line, even if it is just with a continuity checker to make sure your source is switched. That's what I did when I read the directions as I never gave the WW motor a thought as a source before, and it is so close to where I have my thermo sensor mounted on the top of the intake manifold.

                            Stu Fox

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                            • Clem Z.
                              Expired
                              • December 31, 2005
                              • 9427

                              #15
                              Re: Electric Choke

                              Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
                              Clem;

                              When you refer to an oil pressure switch, I trust you are talking about some years newer than our C-2's, at least newer than my 63. I would love to have one, but I guess I have to make due with a gauge only.

                              Your advice on using a meter is good. One should always check a line, even if it is just with a continuity checker to make sure your source is switched. That's what I did when I read the directions as I never gave the WW motor a thought as a source before, and it is so close to where I have my thermo sensor mounted on the top of the intake manifold.

                              Stu Fox
                              when GM went to electric chokes they ran the power wire thru the oil pressure switch and if the switch went bad the choke did not work so they put in a "choke" light on the dash to inform the driver

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