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  • Bob C.
    Infrequent User
    • April 30, 1999
    • 13

    shock bolt torque

    I got new shocks and bolts for my 66 from Paragon and now have stripped three nuts for the rear top bolts. The AIM shows 40-60 ft. lbs. I set it at 50 and all nuts stripped before that. After the first one stripped they gave me two grade 8 nuts, they stripped too. What should the torque be?
  • Bruce B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1996
    • 2930

    #2
    Re: shock bolt torque

    Sounds like the hardware they gave you is "made in china".
    I ran into the same problem of stripped threads on shackle bolts for the rear springs on a C1.
    They, not Paragon, just kept replacing them until I got some good ones.

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    • Larry M.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 1, 1992
      • 2688

      #3
      Re: shock bolt torque

      Originally posted by Bob Coltman (32221)
      I got new shocks and bolts for my 66 from Paragon and now have stripped three nuts for the rear top bolts. The AIM shows 40-60 ft. lbs. I set it at 50 and all nuts stripped before that. After the first one stripped they gave me two grade 8 nuts, they stripped too. What should the torque be?
      Bob:

      Stop torqueing. Some fasteners are just not meant to be tightened with a torque wrench, and this is one.

      I had the same problem with my 1967 car. I got one of the nuts to hold at 40 psig.....it was an original Grade 8 nut. All the replacement ones I tired on the other side failed at around 35 psig or so. Remember this is really a half-nut, so the amount of threads is not sufficient for the 50-60 lb-ft (full nut torque) shown in the Chevrolet Service Manual.

      I put a full-sized nut on the bolt as a test, and torqued it to spec with no problem. So it is simply the thinner nut thickness and the metal properties that are the issue.

      I simply tightened the replacement nut with a 3/8 inch drive ratchet and called it quits. Suggest you do the same.....or search for another original GM Grade 8 half-nut in good condition.

      I have replaced MANY shocks over the years on my cars, and never used a torque wrench on any of the bolts until this last time......and it turned out to be a problem. FWIW, I also rarely use a torque wrench on aluminum, unless absolutely necessary, and I know the CORRECT spec for that particular steel to aluminum joint.

      Larry

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43212

        #4
        Re: shock bolt torque

        Originally posted by Bob Coltman (32221)
        I got new shocks and bolts for my 66 from Paragon and now have stripped three nuts for the rear top bolts. The AIM shows 40-60 ft. lbs. I set it at 50 and all nuts stripped before that. After the first one stripped they gave me two grade 8 nuts, they stripped too. What should the torque be?
        Bob------

        This fastening system included a 7/16-20 grade 8 bolt and 7/16-20 grade 8 THIN nut and 7/16" lockwasher. Any such fastening system that won't hold 60 lb/ft of torque is GROSSLY DEFICIENT.

        Here's what I think has happened: most of the thin nuts on the market today are ungraded or grade 2. I'd guess that what's being supplied is such a nut. You can obtain grade 8 thin nuts of the proper size from McMaster-Carr. You usually won't find them in a hardware store, though.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: shock bolt torque

          Almost sounds like your torque wrench is out of calibration. No way a grade 8 nut should have/would have stripped at 50 ft lb
          Dick Whittington

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43212

            #6
            Re: shock bolt torque

            Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
            Almost sounds like your torque wrench is out of calibration. No way a grade 8 nut should have/would have stripped at 50 ft lb

            Dick-------


            ...IF it actually was grade 8.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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