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  • Steve D.
    Expired
    • May 16, 2011
    • 106

    Engine pull brackets?

    Do I have to have these installed for full credit? From what I have read, a lot were removed at the plant.
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Engine pull brackets?

    Lift brackets were installed on the engine and were not removed at the factory, with the exception of the 3X2 engines which had the front bracket removed. To receive full credit, they have to be there
    Dick Whittington

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    • Dale C.
      Expired
      • November 1, 1999
      • 844

      #3
      Re: Engine pull brackets?

      Dick
      Did the pull brackets have any markings? 68 BB.
      Dale

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      • Jack C.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 30, 1992
        • 1090

        #4
        Re: Engine pull brackets?

        Dale. My rear one on my 400hsp has no markings that I can see.
        Jack Corso
        1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
        Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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        • Dale C.
          Expired
          • November 1, 1999
          • 844

          #5
          Re: Engine pull brackets?

          I was told, someone knowledgeable, that the front 427 68 bracket was a little different and had a P/N stamped in it and the one we often see, without stamping, was for a 454. It's hard to find the stamped one.
          Dale

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          • Terry B.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 1999
            • 607

            #6
            Re: Engine pull brackets?

            Here is a picture of the front Lifting Bracket from an earlier post in the archives. I have not been able to find one for my '68.

            Terry

            Terry Buchanan

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43209

              #7
              Re: Engine pull brackets?

              Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
              I was told, someone knowledgeable, that the front 427 68 bracket was a little different and had a P/N stamped in it and the one we often see, without stamping, was for a 454. It's hard to find the stamped one.
              Dale
              Dale------


              I cannot find information that any of these big block engine lifting brackets were ever available in SERVICE from GM. Some of the small block brackets were so-available, but even that has always surprised me.

              If anyone has a part number found stamped on the 1968 big block bracket (or, any other bracket, for that matter), I'd be interested to know what it is.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Grant W.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1987
                • 407

                #8
                Re: Engine pull brackets?

                Hi Joe
                Here is what I have come up with after searching and looking at original Big Block cars over the many many past years in trying to figure out what is correct for my June 68 care.

                68 early? No hole and no part number, Could be for early 68 to April 68
                68/69 Hole and part number 3969829 Stamped horizontal on the back May 68 and up to 69 This is what was put on my 68 June car.
                70 to 73 part number stamped on the back 3994055 horizontal and a V?
                74 to 75 part number stamped on the front and on an angle and horse shoe stamped on the back.
                So I hope I got it right. Just a note repops are not even close.
                The silver painted one 3969829 is on my car.
                Thanks, Grant
                Attached Files

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                • Dale C.
                  Expired
                  • November 1, 1999
                  • 844

                  #9
                  Re: Engine pull brackets?

                  Is there a way to look at old pictures of past posts? John Hinckley had some pictures he must have posted on Feb 21 2007 but they were not there, just the narrative. I would like to see them as we are talking about engine lift brackets. Grant, Hi, I was trying to find that good picture you had of the x-section of the 68 sill plates and could not locate it either. If not too much trouble could you point me to it or post it again?
                  Thanks
                  Dale

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                  • Dale C.
                    Expired
                    • November 1, 1999
                    • 844

                    #10
                    Re: Engine pull brackets?

                    Hey Grant
                    Another question if you don't mind, about lift brackets. The JM on page 46 says that (427s) the front bracket is silver if the intake manifold is aluminum, is that correct? I saw somewhere that the iron heads had a engine colored bracket and the aluminum heads had the silver bracket. Thats not correct eh? Then the rear is orange for iron head 427s.
                    Dale

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: Engine pull brackets?

                      Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
                      Is there a way to look at old pictures of past posts? John Hinckley had some pictures he must have posted on Feb 21 2007 but they were not there, just the narrative. Dale
                      Dale -

                      Do you recall what the photos were? I tried to use the Advanced Search function to go back and read the narrative to give me a clue for the photos, but I guess I don't know how to use it; it won't let me specify a date, nor will it go back more than a year.

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                      • Dale C.
                        Expired
                        • November 1, 1999
                        • 844

                        #12
                        Re: Engine pull brackets?

                        John
                        Here is your answer to a post by a Phil Philson (45550) Banned????? What's that about? Anyway, it was titled Motor Pull Brackets on 20 Feb 2007. Hope my cut and paste works. John or anyone, do you know how to forward an Email cause I just got a cool one about a barn find (Stutz) and can't get the thing into the NCRS tech bd?
                        Dale
                        February 21st, 2007, 06:56 PM
                        John Hinckley (29964)
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        Join Date: November 30th, 1997
                        Posts: 13,152


                        Re: 67 L71 motor pull brackets
                        My Production Engineering Group at the Chevrolet Pilot Line developed the new corporate engine lift hooks and lifting brackets, and they were released for first usage for the 1968 model year. Photo below shows the assortment of 1967 assembly plant hooks required that carried engines by the exhaust manifolds on the left, and the only two hooks required for the 1968 model year engines equipped with lift brackets on the right.

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                        • John H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1997
                          • 16513

                          #13
                          Re: Engine pull brackets?

                          Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
                          John
                          Here is your answer to a post by a Phil Philson (45550) Banned????? What's that about? Anyway, it was titled Motor Pull Brackets on 20 Feb 2007. Hope my cut and paste works. February 21st, 2007, 06:56 PM
                          John Hinckley (29964)
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          Join Date: November 30th, 1997
                          Posts: 13,152


                          Re: 67 L71 motor pull brackets
                          My Production Engineering Group at the Chevrolet Pilot Line developed the new corporate engine lift hooks and lifting brackets, and they were released for first usage for the 1968 model year. Photo below shows the assortment of 1967 assembly plant hooks required that carried engines by the exhaust manifolds on the left, and the only two hooks required for the 1968 model year engines equipped with lift brackets on the right.
                          Dale -

                          Here's the photo I posted with that commentary.

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43209

                            #14
                            Re: Engine pull brackets?

                            Originally posted by Grant Wong (12133)
                            Hi Joe
                            Here is what I have come up with after searching and looking at original Big Block cars over the many many past years in trying to figure out what is correct for my June 68 care.

                            68 early? No hole and no part number, Could be for early 68 to April 68
                            68/69 Hole and part number 3969829 Stamped horizontal on the back May 68 and up to 69 This is what was put on my 68 June car.
                            70 to 73 part number stamped on the back 3994055 horizontal and a V?
                            74 to 75 part number stamped on the front and on an angle and horse shoe stamped on the back.
                            So I hope I got it right. Just a note repops are not even close.
                            The silver painted one 3969829 is on my car.
                            Thanks, Grant

                            Grant------


                            Thanks. As I suspected, the GM #3969829 was never available in SERVICE. However, the 3994055 was once available but never cataloged for a Corvette application. It was discontinued in April, 1991 and replaced by GM #10168835 which is also now discontinued.

                            While I do not doubt it, I am absolutely amazed that the 3969829 was originally used on a 1968. That is a part number that I would not expect to have seen until late 1969. I'll bet this was one of the few, if not only, parts with a 3969 "prefix" used on a 1968. They must have had that thing on a real "fast track".
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Dick W.
                              Former NCRS Director Region IV
                              • June 30, 1985
                              • 10483

                              #15
                              Re: Engine pull brackets?

                              [quote=Dale Carlson (33147);559959]John
                              Here is your answer to a post by a Phil Philson (45550) Banned?????


                              Membership expired in 2008
                              Dick Whittington

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