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  • Philip A.
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    • February 25, 2008
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    Frame stencil- how done?

    Need advice on using the frame stencil. I NEVER have had any luck with stencils and always get bleed through under the edges. There must be some technique or method I am missing. How do you folks do it to get the desired results? All guidance an tricks will be greatly appreciated.
  • Tracy C.
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    • July 31, 2003
    • 2739

    #2
    Re: Frame stencil- how done?

    Philip,

    I used one of those 1" dia X 4" long foam rollers. Daub it it the paint and roll back and forth on a piece of paper until the paint is equally distributed on the roller and mostly gone.

    Then tape the stencil in place on the edges and roll with light to medium pressure until you get some coverage on the frame.

    Build up slow light layers to minimize bleed around the edges. You will still get some, but so did the factory guys.

    tc

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    • Jim D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 1985
      • 2882

      #3
      Re: Frame stencil- how done?

      Here's what you need to know. https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...75193&uid=4560

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      • Gary B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 31, 1997
        • 6966

        #4
        Frame stencil- how done?

        Originally posted by Philip Arena (48654)
        Need advice on using the frame stencil. I NEVER have had any luck with stencils and always get bleed through under the edges. There must be some technique or method I am missing. How do you folks do it to get the desired results? All guidance an tricks will be greatly appreciated.
        Phillip,

        I can't remember who told me this, but one way to prevent or at least minimize wicking of paint under the stencil is to apply double-stick tape over the entire back of the stencil, then with a sharp Xacto knife recut the numbers/letters thru the tape and then press the taped stencil onto the frame.

        One original stencil I've seen looks like it could have been brushed, not rolled. But spraying is definitely not correct according to those who know.

        Gary

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        • Bruce B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1996
          • 2930

          #5
          Re: Frame stencil- how done?

          Philip,
          Original stencils were rolled.
          Don't worry about bleed , just don't load the roller with to much paint.
          Remember to put the stencil on the frame upside down if the frame is rolling on wheels.

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          • Patrick N.
            Very Frequent User
            • March 10, 2008
            • 951

            #6
            Re: Frame stencil- how done?

            another trick is a very light coat of spray adhesive-not the high tack automotive stuff, the craft store kind is more than fine. give a couple very light mist coats, let it tack and lightly press on.

            good luck!

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            • Gary B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 31, 1997
              • 6966

              #7
              Re: Frame stencil- how done?

              Originally posted by Patrick Nolan (48743)
              another trick is a very light coat of spray adhesive-not the high tack automotive stuff, the craft store kind is more than fine. give a couple very light mist coats, let it tack and lightly press on.

              good luck!
              Patrick,

              I like the spray adhesive idea better than the double-side tape.

              Gary

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              • Tom L.
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                • October 17, 2006
                • 1439

                #8
                Re: Frame stencil- how done?

                I never did a stencil on a frame but this might help. My wife wanted to stencil a border in my living room, I said yeah right, "how are you going to stop the bleeding??" She used a small roller made for stenciling, it worked perfect. 80' of stenciling and NO bleeding. She got to say "I told you so".

                Don't have the info on the roller at work but I can get it. She did get it a Micheals, a craft store that is up and down the east coast.

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                • Gary B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 31, 1997
                  • 6966

                  #9
                  Frame stencil - tape vs spray adhesive

                  Originally posted by Patrick Nolan (48743)
                  another trick is a very light coat of spray adhesive-not the high tack automotive stuff, the craft store kind is more than fine. give a couple very light mist coats, let it tack and lightly press on.

                  good luck!
                  Patrick,

                  Actually now that I think about it more, isn't the spray adhesive likely to transfer to the frame and remain sticky for a long time? Now I'm back to preferring the double-sided tape.

                  Gary

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                  • Patrick N.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 10, 2008
                    • 951

                    #10
                    Re: Frame stencil - tape vs spray adhesive

                    Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                    Patrick,

                    Actually now that I think about it more, isn't the spray adhesive likely to transfer to the frame and remain sticky for a long time? Now I'm back to preferring the double-sided tape.

                    Gary
                    Gary-

                    Lol-back to tape,
                    The spray technique works quite well actually, spray a mist coat, wait 30 seconds or so, spray second mist coat, let the adhesive air dry a little, 30 - 60 seconds. Press on. Basically you are making your own low tack adhesive back "peel-n-stick". Typically what you may find are a few "dots" of adhesive here ant there.
                    It is important not to have too much paint on your roller though, you will force the paint under no matter what if too wet. I would recommend what others have stated, roll the excess paint off on a piece of card board or paper- almost dry- before you apply the paint to the frame. Make a pass-let it dry, make a another and build up the paint.

                    FWIW, personally, I'm OK with a "little" imperfection as it looks more authentic. It shows off the "hand-touch" our cars recieved. It s like having Argent overspray on the back side of a ralley rim, or runs in the right place.

                    either way you go, I would do a trial run before the main event-best of luck

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                    • Tom R.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • June 30, 1993
                      • 4079

                      #11
                      Re: Frame stencil- how done?

                      me thinks we are getting to precise with our technique tactics. using double-side tape and than cutting out the characters...I'm sure that was a factory technique!
                      Tom Russo

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                      • Patrick N.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • March 10, 2008
                        • 951

                        #12
                        Re: Frame stencil- how done?

                        Originally posted by Tom Russo (22903)
                        me thinks we are getting to precise with our technique tactics. using double-side tape and than cutting out the characters...I'm sure that was a factory technique!
                        we all "enhance" the factory techniques now and again. depends what you're aiming for I guess. Anyway, spray and stick is the condensed version.

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                        • Anthony P.
                          Expired
                          • June 27, 2010
                          • 485

                          #13
                          Re: Frame stencil- how done?

                          What I did was tape the stencil to the frame, then lightly sprayed the paint and then rolled a dry roller across it to get the right texture. I repeated this 2 times. I had nice crisp lines

                          Tony

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                          • Kenneth B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 1984
                            • 2084

                            #14
                            Re: Frame stencil- how done?

                            Originally posted by Tom Russo (22903)
                            me thinks we are getting to precise with our technique tactics. using double-side tape and than cutting out the characters...I'm sure that was a factory technique!
                            I am begining to wonder when this will all end. Dose any one think that the guy puting the paint # on the frame gave a crap about how it looked. Come on people me thinks you think you are overdoing this. I am starting to get worried.
                            KEN
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