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  • Michael J.
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    • January 26, 2009
    • 7074

    Rarest of the rare on auction

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  • Michael M.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 31, 1993
    • 603

    #2
    Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

    Michael, keep us posted on what the selling price winds up to be. Thanks.

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    • Patrick H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • November 30, 1989
      • 11608

      #3
      Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

      Wrong radiator cap.
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      71 "deer modified" coupe
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      • Kenneth B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • August 31, 1984
        • 2084

        #4
        Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

        Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
        Wrong radiator cap.
        I didn't see a cap on the radiator only on the overflow tank.. LOL
        ON another side bar why did the LT-1 have a BB radiator & L-88 & ZR-2 have a small block one?
        KEN
        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 31, 1988
          • 43193

          #5
          Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

          Originally posted by Kenneth Barry (7808)
          I didn't see a cap on the radiator only on the overflow tank.. LOL
          ON another side bar why did the LT-1 have a BB radiator & L-88 & ZR-2 have a small block one?
          KEN
          Ken------


          They didn't. The radiator used on the LT-1 was a copper/brass radiator but it was not the same one used for ANY big block. It might generally APPEAR like the radiator used for 1966-68 big blocks, but it's absolutely not the same piece.

          Also, the L-88 and ZR-2 did not use a small block radiator. They used an aluminum radiator that was similar to the 63-72 small block aluminum radiator, but it was not the same. The L-88 and ZR-2 radiator was GM #3007436, the same radiator used for most 1965 L-78's. This radiator was primarily a big block radiator (i.e. L-78, L-88, ZR-2). The only small block application it was ever used on was 1970-72 ZR-1.
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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 31, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

            Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
            Wrong radiator cap.
            Patrick-----


            Yes, and it's hard to believe that someone wouldn't at least use a reproduction cap on a car like this. The cap stands out like a sore thumb, although probably only to nuts like us.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 26, 2009
              • 7074

              #7
              Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
              Patrick-----


              Yes, and it's hard to believe that someone wouldn't at least use a reproduction cap on a car like this. The cap stands out like a sore thumb, although probably only to nuts like us.
              Very true, you do wonder why obvious things are not correct, this is not like using hairspray on those glossy door jams
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              • Larry S.
                Expired
                • March 11, 2007
                • 457

                #8
                Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                Let me ask a dumb question: Other than being 1 of 12, what's so special about this car? A lot of 66-67 Vettes had 425 h.p., even 435 in 67. So it's got an M22, heavy duty brakes, transistor ignition, and special springs, shocks, and sway bars. That doesn't seem unusual to me; didn't some 66-67s have transistor ignition? "Special" springs, shocks, and sway bars in what way? Didn't all SB vs. BB cars have different springs, shocks, and sway bars?

                Not disparaging the car one bit; in fact, I'd love to own it, but what am I missing here? Is it just the 1 of 12 factor? Why aren't the 1 of 16 or the 1 of 20 67s almost just as rare if it's just numbers?

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                • Michael M.
                  Frequent User
                  • October 31, 2004
                  • 64

                  #9
                  Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                  Tower clamp on top radiator hose. Don't have my AIM on hand but I know small blocks don't.
                  Mike(42753)

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 26, 2009
                    • 7074

                    #10
                    Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                    Originally posted by Larry Spencer (47114)
                    Let me ask a dumb question: Other than being 1 of 12, what's so special about this car? A lot of 66-67 Vettes had 425 h.p., even 435 in 67. So it's got an M22, heavy duty brakes, transistor ignition, and special springs, shocks, and sway bars. That doesn't seem unusual to me; didn't some 66-67s have transistor ignition? "Special" springs, shocks, and sway bars in what way? Didn't all SB vs. BB cars have different springs, shocks, and sway bars?

                    Not disparaging the car one bit; in fact, I'd love to own it, but what am I missing here? Is it just the 1 of 12 factor? Why aren't the 1 of 16 or the 1 of 20 67s almost just as rare if it's just numbers?
                    What you say is correct, all the ones you mention are rare. My Rally Red '67 L71 coupe original side-exhaust, has 435 HP and the F41 special suspension and transistor ignition, etc. (they all came together as a package), and is one of just a few (extrapolation is not very accurate). However, this car is the last of the big blocks with decent HP, as I understand it. If a C3 like this competes (price-wise) with the '67s with similar "rarity", that will be noteworthy. I think it could easily go for 6 figures +.
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                    • Larry S.
                      Expired
                      • March 11, 2007
                      • 457

                      #11
                      Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                      What you say is correct, all the ones you mention are rare. My Rally Red '67 L71 coupe original side-exhaust, has 435 HP and the F41 special suspension and transistor ignition, etc. (they all came together as a package), and is one of just a few (extrapolation is not very accurate). However, this car is the last of the big blocks with decent HP, as I understand it. If a C3 like this competes (price-wise) with the '67s with similar "rarity", that will be noteworthy. I think it could easily go for 6 figures +.
                      Okay, I understand better now. I guess I misinterpreted the "rarest of the rare" description and that we were talking about a $1M+ car here. You put it into perspective, and I appreciate it. BTW, I made an error in my post when I referred to the "1 of 20" 67's; I meant the 1 0f 20 66's (390 h.p., auto, AC.) Thanks!

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                      • Kenneth T.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • March 23, 2008
                        • 631

                        #12
                        Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                        A May build car is not an early one. It should have Chevy Orange valve covers with the rubber oil fill plug. I guess these things can be fixed though for the rarest cars.

                        Ken

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                        • Dick W.
                          Former NCRS Director Region IV
                          • June 30, 1985
                          • 10483

                          #13
                          Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                          By no means am I endorsing the car but y'all are missing that it is 1 of 2. The other 10 were T top cars.

                          This particular car was supposedly sold at Bloomington 2 years ago for $500k. It was no saled at Monterey 3 months later at $345k. The only other ZR2 that I am aware of being sold in the last 3 years was a coupe that brought $325k real money. I saw it sold and I know the buyer. There may have been some private treaty sales that I am unaware of.
                          Dick Whittington

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                          • Steve B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • February 28, 2002
                            • 1190

                            #14
                            Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                            Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                            By no means am I endorsing the car but y'all are missing that it is 1 of 2. The other 10 were T top cars.

                            This particular car was supposedly sold at Bloomington 2 years ago for $500k. It was no saled at Monterey 3 months later at $345k. The only other ZR2 that I am aware of being sold in the last 3 years was a coupe that brought $325k real money. I saw it sold and I know the buyer. There may have been some private treaty sales that I am unaware of.
                            The green conv. that proteam bought at Monterey last year was sold to an Indiana collector. PT paid 440 for it and I'll bet they made a profit so it gives you an idea of current pricing. I think the green car is a better car though. My guess is the 375 for the orange car.

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                            • Dick W.
                              Former NCRS Director Region IV
                              • June 30, 1985
                              • 10483

                              #15
                              Re: Rarest of the rare on auction

                              Originally posted by Steve Bramati (37512)
                              The green conv. that proteam bought at Monterey last year was sold to an Indiana collector. PT paid 440 for it and I'll bet they made a profit so it gives you an idea of current pricing. I think the green car is a better car though. My guess is the 375 for the orange car.
                              In today's market, that would be a reasonable number, now it the seller willing to feel the pain?
                              Dick Whittington

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